Fighter of the year: Can there be any doubt?

I think not! :cheer:

 

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Pavlik, Calzaghe, Cotto?

Nah...me thinks not!

 

Cotto vs Judah is still Fight of the Yeat IMO.

 

Pavlik still gets the nod in my book. Just personal opinion, but KO wins over Miranda and Taylor is hard to beat.

The split decision verdict over Oscar actually hurts Floyd in my eyes.

 

I still take Joe, as he unified his division with a clear win over his ONLY rival...

But PBF will win it now- no doubt

 

This "split decision" verdict would hurt him IMO if Pavlik didn't also benefit from a close call of his own (heaven forbid he's in with a quick ref early in the fight with Taylor).

I'd still go with Mayweather because of the historical aspect of things. We may not be thinking like this at the moment, but down the road people are going to be looking at records and see that some guy got a decision over a titleholder (albeit above his "best" weight/activity) who was also the most important name of that generation, at 154, as well as defended his championship against a guy who was recognized as the 140 champion, in that same year. That says a bit more than a guy winning a fight over a top contender and the champion of the same division IMO, but I'm a sucker for that sort of thing.

And yes, I was considering this before the result of tonight's fight; like I said, I'm a sucker for these kinds of things.

 

That's reaching. Comparing Floyd squeaking by Oscar to Pavlik getting knocked down and coming back to win via KO is a stretch.

The bottom line is that Pavlik won impressively against the top MW in the world. Mayweather looked like crap and won a split decision against an aging fighter.

 

gotta say a win over Hatton is much better than a win over Taylor who was considered an imposter champ

 

Pavlik-Taylor & Marquez-Vasquez were both better fights than Cotto-Judah.

Not that Cotto-Judah wasnt a good fight, it was. But FOTY it is not!

 

DLH is better than Miranda, and Hatton is better than fraud ass Taylor!

 

Taylor was a full fledged middleweight and the champion with 2 wins over the legend B Hops. Hatton wasn't a legit 147. And DLH was shot and inactive and Floyd still barely got by.::

 

I agree 100% with this statement. I'll Holla 5000

 

:: But how is Hatton better than Taylor?

 

He just is. Taylor is more talented than Hatton, but Ricky is better. At least Hatton knows what he's doing in the ring. He knows how to apply pressure. Taylor doesnt know what the hell he's doing in the ring.

If Floyd & Taylor were the same natural size, Floyd would literally TOY with Jermain.

 

Oh really? So how the f*ck did he beat Hopkins twice and give Winky Wright hell for 12 rounds going to a draw? Does that seem like a guy who doesn't know what he's doing, X? :dunno: ::

 

I think it is obvious Pavlik's win over Taylor was bigger than PBF's win over Hatton.

Taylor was THE undisputed and undefeated middleweight champion of the world defending his title. And eve though many didn't like him, he did have two wins over Hopkins.

Hatton on the other hand was the champion of a lower weight division and not even seen as the biggest challenge Floyd could take around his weight class.

PBF might win it and I wouldn't argue, but let's not make his win over Hatton too big historically. He turned away a good hungry challenger, that's it

 

Pavlik is my choice, and this is coming from a big Mayweather fan.

I'm more of someone who picks winners from a pure boxing standpoint, not the one who takes part in the biggest events.

Mayweather won an unimpressive decision over a bigger De La Hoya (who hasn't been too active to say the least) and then stopped the undefeated linear jr. welterweight champ.

Pavlik stopped a fringe contender, top ranked contender, and the undefeated linear middleweight champ.

Oh, but Hatton is better than Taylor though.

 

i dont see why it matters that hatton was in a lower weight......Floyd is not a welterweight either

 

mmm... Isn't that exactly the title he does have? :dunno: Of course the weight class matters. Beating Erik Morales would be a bigger achievement for Manny Pacquiao than Wlad Klitschko, don't you think?

 

and didn't ricky have a welter title too?

 

He isn't a big welterweight, he probably weighed less in the ring than Hatton......but 147 and above is where Mayweather's been fighting for the last 2 years.

 

Ricky fought there one fight and got back down at 140 where he has his title, Floyd has spent last years in welterweight where he has his title. This really is pretty simple

 

Hatton is naturally the bigger, stronger, heavier fighter


but sure, floyd is a welter and hatton was greatly disadvantaged by fighting him ::

 

Exactly.

Taylor was THE top middleweight in the world, and had twice beaten a highly regarded, long-reigning champion, who himself went on to whup the top rated light-heavyweight in the world.

All Hatton had done at 147 is edge out a split decision over a guy Shane Mosley later toyed with.

I'd say the guy who earns a split decision over HOPKINS knows what he's doing better than the guy who gets an SD over fucking Collazo.

And even at 140, Hatton's only real big win was Tszyu, and not only would most people probably rank Hopkins as better than Tszyu, but Tszyu hasn't had any wins lately as big as Hopkins had over Tarver (and then Winky, for that matter). Heck, a good argument could be made that Winky is/was a better fighter than Tszyu too.

 

Just like Hopkins and Winky did, right?

 

Kelly Pavlik gets my vote.

 

I disagree.

Hatton beat the shit out of Tszyu and Castillo and IMO Taylor lost to 44 year old Hopkins and Winky. Having them on his resume with an W doesn't make him a better fighter. Maybe if he KO'ed them like Hatton did.

Hatton is clearly a better fighter.

 

miguel cotto. hands down.