fighters coming off losses - what next?

i'm talking about winky, margarito, miranda, and spinks. who should these guys fight next?

 

They've got nothing to worry about.

Lost your last fight? No sweat! HBO PPV wants YOU! Join others such as Zab Judah, Marco Antonio Barrera and many more!! Hurry now though - if you don't sign up, we'll be forced to look for a REAL opponent and put it on regular HBO.

 

Winky should drop down to 160. He should pursue a fight with the winner of Pavlik-Taylor (If Jermain stays at middle) or look to fight another title holder like Abraham. Winky isn't afraid of fighting overseas.

Margarito should fight whoever the highest ranked/respected opponent he can get. He was high risk/low reward before, now it's even lower reward.

Miranda should just fight anyone he can get a spectaular knockout against. A couple of highlight reel type ko's will get him back into the mix even if he KO's cans.

Spinks? Spare us all and retire.

 

Hate to say this but if anyone deserves to be back, it's Spinks. Some might even say he's the real middleweight champ.

Margarito should get another nice fight and I suspect he will.

Miranda will face a couple doft touches and then try to get back in the mix. He still hasn't reached any serious heights (unlike the others on the list) and judging from previous performances, he may never reach those heights.

I agree - Winks hould go back to 160. I didn't like the way he looked at 170 at all. It might be that he's slowing fast but we won't be able to tell until he's back in his comfort zone. But maybe he has difficulty making 160 now?

 

now that mayorga-vargas looks unlikely, i wouldnt mind seeing winky beat his ass over 12 rounds.

i'd like to see margarito fight williams again, but he'll probably fight some stiff then wait for someone to give him a title shot. i wouldnt mind seeing him move up to 154 and whup Baldomir.

miranda is fighting sometime this year and i'm sure he's gonna fight some stiff. i'd like to see him fight the winner of bute-berrio

shit, i wouldnt mind seeing stinks vs. mayorga II.

 

Spinks should probably go back down to 154 and try to get a fight with Forrest.

I don't even think Miranda is that great to begin with and I don't see him going that far in the division. Taylor is moving up after the fight so maybe that widens the door, but still I don't see him as a favourite against anybody at 160.

Wright should move back to 160 since Taylor is leaving and if Taylor wins and vacates maybe him and Pavlik can fight for the vacant title, or if he can still make 154 (doubtful) probably fight Forrest for the title in a boring fight.

Margarito can probably wait in the wings b/c the division is deep and he can hope and pray he can get a fight with Cintron who has a title. If Cintron goes on to face Williams, he can hope and pray Cintron wins because he would have the psychological edge against Cintron if they fight .

 

Damn! winky vs abraham would be great!! :clap:

 

you might have a point when it comes to zab, but those other guys? come on.

 

The Wink- Pavlik vs Taylor Winner,Calzaghe vs Kessler Winner or Miranda...

Margarito- Eventually a RE w/Kermit Cintron...Perhaps a RE w/Joshua Clottey...Zab,Baldomir or Mayorga would B Other Good Options...Bottom Line,there's STILL Fights to B Made for Margarito...If he just Sits on his ASS Waiting for Floyd-Hatton-Cotto-Shane to Work themselves Out,it's HIS OWN Fucking Fault...

Miranda- RE w/Allan Green @ 168,if Green's WILLING...Winky or a Bout w/the Kessler vs Calzaghe LOSER (the Loser will NEED a Good Fight,Especially if he Loses DECISIVELY)....

Spinks- Vernon or Ouma



REED

 

Granted, Barrera is worlds better than Zab and deserves a lot more leeway. Nevertheless, he's coming off a convincing loss to Marquez. Furthermore, his decline had already been exposed by the great Rocky Juarez. And what do the fans get? Barrera-Pacquiao II. On PPV. Four years later. I'm not happy about that.

 

unlike judah, barrera wasn't knocked out nor is he on a 3 fight losing streak. he deserves a high profile farewell bout and another payday.

since getting KOed by judah, stinks has been inactive fighting once a year. i'd like to see him fight more then take on the likes of ouma, forrest, or even quartey.

karmazin also belongs in the mix and deserves another meaningful bout at 154 or 160.

 

:nono: Margarito fighting Zab, is a drastic step backwards and a waste of his fucking time, I mean he might be 'worthy' enough for Fraud and Cotto, but I'd like to think that the Margarito management will have more respect for the hardcore fans and for Antonio himself, it's a 'nuthin' fight, Zab's the one that should actually be proving himself 'worthy' to be part of the fucking mix, because as the results stand, he's been effectively PURGED to merely an exploited gate-keeper/club fighter...

I hope Margarito can miraculously secure rematches with Cintron or better yet, Paul Williams.

 

Phony should wait in line to face the Mosley-Cotto winner, so that he can add another loss to his fraudly record.

 

if by phony you mean Margarito..that bitch had his chance to fight Cotto on June 9 but decided to skip that for a fight against Williams....so now he can wait...wait..and wait some more...

after Mosley...Cotto should move on to the winner of Mayweather vs. Hatton...

Margarita can rematch Clottey...while he waits..

 

I'd like to see Margarito - Floyd, that'd be nice.

 

Agreed. By rights he should rematch Clottey, with TWO good hands I think Josh can whup him.

I hope he rematches Cintron though. If Kerm KO's him, then Phony's ONLY decent win goes out the window.

 

well next time Margarita needs to make sure he doesn't lose to his former sparring partner...

and when you have the opportunity..to fight the name guy..MIGUEL COTTO you take it...instead of fighitng an unknown fighter...

 

:eeeek: TWO legged Sharmba Mitchell!.

 

Any chance of Margarito - Floyd being made do you reckon fellas?.. I think I vaguely recall they underwent negotiations a while back, can you remember what happenned?.. :dunno:

 

With marquee names like Hatton, Cotto, Mosley, De La Hoya around 147..why would Mayweather want to fight some unknown guy?....He doesn't even have a alphabet title anymore?

 

Unknown?..that must be a fly-hip cool new razz for 'PARTY MAN', for I seem to see Margarito's name pop up more than any other on this forum, like corrupt scripts it feels like Doghouse boxing at times, little Margarito derividents skittered everywhere, I see hundreds of sexy pictures and articles written about him on several websites, and I see an enormous crowd chanting "Mexico" at his recent fight, :doh: those fools musn't know where Paul Williams hails from,... I also saw Fraud's trainer, Roger Mayweather, try to organise a sabotage of the 'insignificant' Margarito's post-fight press conference with Gomez last year, how did he track down the invisible man, one must wonder..that thief must've broken into profile cabinets in the department, of the national intelligence security agency, Oh Illuminati, my poor desperate spinster :doh: why?.

 

I thought the Marquez bout was a high profile bout and another payday. And some might argue that he may not have lost three in a row but perhaps two out of 3. And let's not forget that, outside of Morales, Barrera has gotten away with quite a few soft touches since getting beat up by PacMan the first time. Actually, more than a few.

 

well, the first juarez fight was competitive. it was a debatable decision, but he easily won the rematch.

marquez fight was also marred by controversy although the majority thought marquez won. nevertheless, it was a close fight imo.

plus, barrera is a lock for the hall of fame and one of the best mexican fighters ever.

judah is a talented but underachieving one hit wonder w/ a name.

 

Seeing as how Zahir Raheem beat Juarez a couple years before Barrera supposedly did, and adding in the fact that Humberto Soto got in his ass a year beforehand, I have to wonder:

1-why was Barrera-Juarez made?

And then based on what happened in that fight, how much has Barrera slipped? Sh*t, he may have won the rematch handily but he wasn't even impressive doing that.

The only controversy was whether or not Marquez suffered a KD. One that he got up from. Other than that, he beat the sh*t out of Barrera. Agreed?

Yep. Always a good reason to milk the public.

Agreed on Judah.

 

Raheem also beat Morales before Pacquaio, what is your point?

Because it seemed like a nice optional defense on paper, simple as that and because Rocky is actually a tough guy but limited and they thought it would be a fight that Barerra looked good in, the loss to Soto is not bad, especially since Soto hasnt been 12 since and it was give and take.

Agreed

I agree, that is why JMM should be in Barerra's spot right now, he is getting a "Golden" screw if anyone is.

 

no, he's getting an easy tuneup after a career defining win.

i dont recall marquez screaming for the pac rematch.

 

pug:

My point is maybe Raheem deserved the shot against Pac or Barrera, not Juarez. Got it? But somehow, Juarez gets his ass handed to him by Soto and what's his reward? A big fight with Barrera! hey, he's got another big fight coming up again - thanks, Mr. Finkel! Oh, and thank you HBO for allowing guys Like Pac and Barrera to keep fighting the same people over and over and over again!

Especially since Soto hasn't been 12 since? What does that have to do with anything? And Juarez woulda been a nice optional defense except...seriously, take a look at the guys Barrera has fought since he lost to PacMan. Paulie Ayala? Robbie Peden? Monkey Fana? Come on, man. Talk about optional defenses. Juarez, coming off those terrible showings against Raheem and Soto was supposed to be easy. Only Barrera has slipped further than even he realized. Now that he knows he's on his last legs, time to cash in on that Pac rematch. The one he skirted for years.

Well, a lot of guys are getting the screw. Mayweather gets blasted for the fights he makes but I swear, if he fought the kind of guys Pacquiao and Barrera got away with fighting, he'd be CRUCIFIED.

 

True dat.

 

Winky should retire. There's nothing left for him

Margarito should fight Judah.

Miranda just needs to stay busy and he'll get a title shot in no time.

Spinks needs to stop boxing and become a full time dancer in rap videos on BET.

 

You dont recall it because his new promoter already had plans and he had to roll wth it or lose MUCH MUCH MORE money.
As good as JMM is he still doesnt have the Barerra name, but it is a win win for Marquez only if the winner of Barerra-Pac will rematch him, Pac is more leary of it than JMM, no doubt.