Fighters Who Fought Like They Had Never.........

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  1. Irish

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    ..........Seen a video of themselves fighting.

    Just read this in the YT comments section of Tye Fields vs Grant.

    Fields basically came out and fought everybody like he'd got no recollection of his last loss or even his last fight...

    ......right foot way too far forward, sloppy southpaw jab, no balance, chin in the air, lunging into the shot that would inevitably spark him out. Always went looking for the other guy.

    Anybody else?
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    James Kirkland
     
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  3. Irish

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    Yeah.....same plodding shuffling style, pushing his punches, wide open....like a guy who literally knew only one way to fight and never corrected any of his basic flaws, a lot of which could have been corrected in camp.

    Hardly surprising when you look at his trainer........had him running around hitting bags off the back of trucks. No Charley Goldman she.
     
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    Amir Khan too.

    Same spastic button mashing rubbish everytime.

    He quite literally fought every fight like a guy who'd never walked into a counter before.
     
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    Yeah, Mann Wolfe ain't exactly a strategic trainer.

    HOWEVER, I think she got the most outta Kirkland. Physically, he was always pretty limited.
     
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    Mann Wolfe’s idea of training was to have Kirkland exercise relentlessly and then beat up on hopeless sparring partners
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Tyson said it best: "Tough guys don't well in boxing. The smartest man will win. The tough guy will end up talking funny."
     
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    With the net result that he was a carbon copy of his dumb self in almost every fight he ever had.

    Honestly.........the stupidest fucking training method of all times.

    He had no chance to learn anything and then when he got sparked, over and over, everyone laughed at him harder for it cos he was known as a bully.
     
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    Every fight Khan was in, hands high, out in front of himself, leaping in and out like a gazelle on caffeine pills.

    "PAH! PAH! PAH-PAH-PAH-PAH!!!"

    Like he literally never watched a tape and said "I need to tone that down". Like nobody every said "I'd like you to watch this and see where you are going wrong"
     
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    Agreed about Khan, I was a fan but he never learned anything from his mistakes. Weird thing is he went through loads of top class trainers and nothing sunk in. Might have also been a case of a "I'm going to do what I do, it'll work against some good fighters, it'll fail against others" thing going on with him.
     
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    He was like a guy in a casino. He bet on the same numbers everytime. Sometimes it would work, other times it didn't.

    I think when he took out Judah and beat Maidana he sort of reckoned he had it made, and that's how the losses to Peterdude and Garcia accrued.

    He fought Canelo as if Canelo were some scrub lightweight like Michael Gomez. Exact same fashion........hands out, flashy combos, moving and bounding about....
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    “I wanna get him to where he gon kill somebody.”

    “Dat kill zone.”
     
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    Right up there with Yoel Judah’s words of corner wisdom like “you gotta be like BLA-DOW! BAM-BAM BAM!” while punching the air in front of him
     
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    Did he train William Joppy for the Trinidad fight? Cos that guy was fugging hopeless.

    "A nuh huh nuh huh huh nuh huh"

    and.....

    "We gotta get tuff now"

    Critical advice. Guaranteed to win.

    Right up there with that guy who was advising Michael Vick..........on financial matters, no less.


     
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    She got him in the kill zone alright. And he did kill somebody. The guy that had money on him to leave the ring under his own steam. That guy died. But not before James did.

    This is what happens when Morons get into things they know shit about.

    I don't care HOW MANY Vonda Wards' she ko'd........she knows shit about stopping OTHER FIGHTERS from getting hit.

    Willie Pep? Great defensive fighter...... couldn't train a dog to sit.

    Anybody can beat a bag , and EVERYBODY can hold a stopwatch and tell the other guy to beat a bag.
     
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    Nah. Marvin Simms with the wisdom that night it seems. Saw Rahman in there and thought it was all the usual Don King stoolies.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Even if she could have actually TAUGHT Kirkland a few tricks of the trade, I don’t think he was bright enough to process it.

    Strong guy, but limited as hell.
     
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    He had the worst feet I have ever seen on a Black fighter. He always looked like he was walking blindfolded across a field of dogshit. He never seemed to know where to put his feet when he moved.
     
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    If they were going to use unorthodox training methods, something like dance classes probably would have been superior than that strongman shit. At its very core boxing is about hitting and not getting hit. Carrying cinder blocks up a mountain aint helping with that.
     
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    Anthony Farnell used to do that. Took up dancing lessons to assist in his footwork.

    The fitness stuff is important. But only after a point.
     

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