Fights where a fighter's stock rises despite losing

Cotto vs. Mosley -- Mosley was doing really well in a fight where, coming into it, I actually thought he would get KO'ed. Not only was he not stopped, the fight was actually VERY competitive and he was a round or two away from winning a big upset.

Ishe Smith vs. Pawel Wolak -- This one was pretty recent and not a big fight or anything, but I never saw Wolak as anything more than a fun clubfighter. At a weight where even he has admitted he shouldn't be fighting at, he made Ishe work for a victory. I thought Wolak would get completely outclassed, because I thought Wolak had no class in the ring. I was wrong here.

Margarito vs. Cotto -- I've always been a hater on Cotto. The Mosley and Margarito fights are the only two that I actually picked him to win. Cotto's ring smarts are what impressed me. He fought a totally different fight than he normally does and showed that he knows how to react when he's hurt. Against Corley, he simply backed away as far as possible and didn't really protect himself well. Against Torres, he took 22 unanswered punches and showed no ability to clinch and not enough smarts to take a knee. Against Margarito, he held, didn't go straight backwards, and took a knee.

Lewis vs. Vitali -- Obvious reasons. No need to go in-depth.


We'll all have different answers because we all think differently of fighters before and after fights.

 

Marco Antonio Barrera after the first Erik Morales fight
Andrew Golota after the first Riddick Bowe fight
Ricardo Torres after the Miguel Cotto fight

 

Bowe-Holyfield I...

Holyfield's Stock COULDN'T Have Been LOWER Coming N 2 this Fight...He'd STRUGGLED w/Foreman & Holmes, NEVER Beat Mike Tyson for his Title & Couldn't Shake the "Small Heavyweight" Tag that was Placed Upon him...

Bowe was a Young, Accomplished & BIG Heavyweight; just the Guy to RID the Boxing World of that PRETENDER, Evander Holyfield...

12 Rounds Later, REED was AMAZED @ the Level of HEART Holyfield Showed & Actually Felt BAD for Not Respecting him or his Reign UNTIL that Point...

Perhaps NO Fighter has Done MORE for his Perception &/or Legacy N a LOSS, than Holyfield Did N LOSING to Riddick Bowe...



REED:hammert:

 

There's probably quite a few that had controversial endings. It's as if the "stock rising" is there to make up for any perceived injustice.

 

Castillo vs Corrales I

 

Castillo vs. Mayweather 1 would fit too.

Jones-Tarver 1.

 

Any fight where the loser wins.

 

Ohhhh I have a good one.

MAB-Morales 1.

 

For the losers in these fights their stock rose A LOT!

Gatti vs Ward
Castillo vs Corrales
Morales vs Barrera
Cotto vs Torres
Pacquiao vs Marquez
Vazquez vs Marquez

 

laporte/sanchez

nelson/sanchez

one other guy who faced sanchez - can't remember his name...

 

Pat Ford.

 

Here's the problem with the Cotto-Mosley fight. For one, to think Mosley would get KO'd is pretty dumb in of itself. He never showed he had deterorated that much. Also Mosley was a good bit further behind in that fight than a rd or 2. I'd say he was behind by 4.

As for poor ol Wolak, well the problem isn't that Wolak did so good, but that Ishe is a hell of a lot worse than maybe you realize. To be honest Ishe himself is nothing more than a club fighter. Ishe's a talented guy, but he almost never brings his talent to the ring. So much in fact that I'm not even sure he is talented. I'm just going off of what others say about him.

 

ford too but there was another guy who gave sanchez a run for his oney - forget his name though....rubin castillo

 

i view mosley/cotto as a razor thin win for cotto. 8 to 4? no fkn way.

 

I had Cotto v Mosley 116-112 as well.

 

DLH - Sturm.

His stock has fallen back down since then though

 

jones jr vs glen johnson

 

huh? explain this one. rjj fans are the biggest spin doctors on the planet.....

 

Maybe he thinks Johnson lost that fight. :dunno:

 

Ruddock after the Tyson fights.

Even though Mike beat the shit outta him both times, and outta the 19 rounds they fought, Ruddock only won about 3.

He hung tough both times, and hit Mike with some HELLACIOUS hooks that woulda knocked any current heavyweight old cold. But Tyson just ate them up, and at times smiled.

 

Mugabi vs. Hagler

Witherspoon vs. Holmes

Duran vs. Hagler

Weaver vs. Holmes

Walcott vs. Louis

Conn vs. Louis

 

You make an interesting point; 99% of Larry Holmes' opponents went up in stock post-fight. Save a Marvis Frazier or two ::

 

Holmes liked easy title defenses, but sometimes they backfired on him when the opponent ended up being more difficult than expected...like Witherspoon and Weaver. And also Carl Williams & Bonecrusher Smith. I read once that prior to the Williams fight, Holmes watched the 1st round of Williams-Tillis, in which Williams was knocked down twice and then stopped the tape 'cause that's all he felt he needed to see.

 

Holmes was/is over-rated as hell when you consider the opponents he went life and death with, and the many he nearly lost to. He was champion for years by the skin of his teeth.

 

Uuuuh, Neil ISN'T an RJ Fan, Doub...


REED:mj:

 

nevertheless. how did his getting KTFO make his stock rise? especially after having been knocked out in his previous fight? i think he must have been being sarcastic.

 

Hatton after Hatton-Floyd

I like him much better after he got his ass kicked..

talking all that shit.. then he got whupped..

 

it certainly boosted his stock legacy wise. it showed he was CLEARLY nothing close to what he once was (as if it wasn't obvious years ago), and that he looked like an absolute corpse at light heavy around that time. it shows tarver got him @the right time and still took two tries to win. some seem to claim tarver beat jones jr @his best or close to, the johnson fight showed he had nada

 

At the time, I thought Tarver's stock went up way too high after his loss to Jones. I thought it was a very overrated performance by Tarver. Then Tarver won the rematch.

People seemed to think more highly of Castillo after his fights with Mayweather.

Foreman was taken more seriously in his second career after the fight with Holyfield.