Floyd Mayweather Jr. eyes May 5 fight(Hints at Pacquiao)

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  1. Beyond the Grave

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    Ya'll slow as fuck posting news lol
     
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    Hints at Pacquiao ? LMAO . He is fighting Victor Ortiz again. 100% he is especially now that the numbers are as high as they reported (if it's true)
     
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    Amir Khan or Erik Morales
     
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    I think its a response to what Bob Arum said about Floyd not wanting the fight because of Manny's right hand.I think Manny should call his bluff and see what happens lol
     
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    http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/169945-mayweathers-return-announcement-angers-pacquiaos-camp
     
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    Arum has clearly been the biggest reason this fight hasn't happened yet. I really, truly hope he dies soon.
     
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    He's 50% of the equation. Both sides carry equal blame.

    Let's not forget Ellerbe repeatedly said there were no negotiations between the two sides which conflicted with what Arum and HBO said.

    It's the complete opposite of HBO not going on record to confirm the Ortiz PPV numbers.

    Frankly, I'm tired of discussing. I hope Manny is dominated and/or loses then we can stop talking about this once and for all.
     
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    Please tell me you don't really believe that.

    I do think Arum isn't fussed about the fight, probably doesn't want it, but Floyd is the reason the fight hasn't happened, at least more than 50% of the reason.
     
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    No.

    It takes two hands to clap.

    If Pac took the tests we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
     
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    Yes thats true.

    But on the flip side if Floyd would have never brought this up, they'd have fought by now.

    Maybe more than once.
     
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    Agreed. Like I said it takes two.

    I'm pissed off with Floyd demanding the tests and I'm pissed off with Pacquiao refusing to take the tests. There's sin all around.
     
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    The thing is, if pacquiao came out and declared he wanted to make the fight for may 5 and mayweather jr.'s responded as arum did how do u think the biggest jew in harvard would have responded?

    He'd already have signed pacquiao up for a rematch with clottey. Arum is clearly part of the reason the fight hasn't happened
     
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    I think Mayweather will face Khan.
     
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    To be clear, I'm not blaming Pacquiao at all. I think he'd fight anyone.

    I'm just saying - say Bob Arum doesn't exist... this fight has probably already happened.
     
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    Bad fight for Floyd. No win situation. More risk than reward.

    He must fight Pacquiao next. All the risk and all the reward.
     
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    word.
     
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    I don't see that much risk, honestly. And as far as reward, Floyd can fight anybody and make a ton of money. Thats all he cares about anyway.

    Pacquiao represents alot of reward but he's also a threat to that 0. I don't see that fight getting made.
     
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    I'm not convinced that Floyd is scared of losing anymore than any proud fighter is scared of losing. I also don't think that Floyd sees Pacquiao as a huge threat either. Remember pacquiao has been beaten by Morales and struggled twice with marquez. Remember that Pacquiao is smaller than Floyd and Floyd knows how to fight southpaws. Also remember that if Floyd was scared of losing his "0" he wouldn't have fought Hatton who was an undefeated P4Pder and who had beaten Castillo much easier than Floyd had done. People may say "well hatton was smaller than Floyd" well Pacquiao is smaller than Floyd too. The offset will be that Pacquiao has proven more han hatton did at 147 and my offset will be that hatton was undefeated at the time but Pacquiao has shown vulnerability in defeat and disputed draws/wins against smaller fighters.
     
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    Don't buy the Hatton argument man. Even at the time - his threat was so clearly inferior to Pacquiao's today.
     
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    if Floyd weren't that concerned we wouldnt be talking about tests.

    The bottom line is, we've seen Manny destroy guys Floyd wouldn't fight or had issues with.
     
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    True...but that's to US though. I'm talking about what I suspect the threat is from his perspective. I think it's equivalent. I don't mean to pretend to be a mindreader...but just going on the facts:

    Pacquiao's biggest wins, except Cotto, were against guys Floyd's already beaten. Pacquiao is a former flyweight. Pacquiao has been beaten (without controversy) in recent memory against Morales. Marquez, who Floyd dealt with easily, gives Pacquiao hell on two occassions.

    So although Pacquio is obviously a better and more impressive fighter than Hatton was...this stuff offsets that somewhat...since at the time Floyd was to fight hatton, hatton had stopped TSZYU (no mean feat) and had stopped Castillo in 4 one-sided rounds and had was yet to see defeat...there was no template as to how to beat him.
     
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    I think the tests thing comes from Floyd snr...he was the first to hint at that in interviews when the potential for this fight was first discussed...and only then did Floyd start to get on that bandwagon. Snr does still have some influence believe it or not.

    Foreman destroyed guys that gave Ali hell btw....Ali was always convinced that he'd win.
     
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    Once upon a time, Floyd was a daring and hungry fighter eager to test himself against the best. But those days are long gone.

    He did fight Hatton and he deserves credit for it. But Hatton had shown vulnerability at 147 pounds already when he fought Collazo. Hatton did beat Castillo but JLC was pretty close to the end at that point. I think Floyd knew that fight was easy money.

    He clearly doesn't feel the same about Pacquiao with the blood testing stipulations he has thrown out there. At the very least, he seems RELUCTANT to take that fight. Money cannot be the issue since he makes a ton against whomever he faces.

    I can't think of anything else other than that 0 being the main reason.
     
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    Hey...you could be right. i guess I just don't believe that he's scared of Pacquiao. I think he just wants to be king of the negotiation table.
     
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    I really hope Manny and Floyd lose in their next fights so we can finally move on. The biggest boxing discussion continues to be about 2 guys that will NEVER face each other. Well, they might face each other eventually but it will probably be long after the match is relevant.
     
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    Boring stuff, but 14 people are currently viewing this thread.

    It's perahps the biggest matchup in history...we mustn't give up hope.
     
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