Gamboa Vs Lopez - who wins?

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Who wins, Gamboa or Lopez

  1. Gamboa

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  2. Lopez

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    Annoyingly it seems this fight ISN'T going to happen soon.

    However, let's say it happens later this year - after another fight or two each, and obviously they win and look pretty much how they have been looking recently. Who would you pick?

    As I said in the other thread, although a fighter as unproven as Gamboa, with a potentially bad chin etc, I would be very surprised if Lopez won.

    I pick Gamboa to stop him in 6 rounds, in a pretty 1 sided fight.

    I think Lopez has been a bit more hyped than is warranted, and despite thinking Gamboa was a KO waiting to happen a few fights ago, he seems to be drastically improving. And don't forget, he has only been a pro for less than 3 years.

    Lopez is actually more hittable than Gamboa, despite Gamboa's cockiness and tendency to drop his hands. Gamboa at least has decent head movement and reactions. Lopez just seems to have bad defense, and walks right into punches, Hatton style.

    Gamboa's offense and speed is on another level to Lopez, combined with Lopez's tendency to get hit clean, I think it's an easy fight to pick.

    Duplicate post because I forgot to add a poll, delete the other one innit.
     
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    I'm not all that excited about this fight, but I think Lopez is going to spark Gamboa in the mid-late rounds. Gamboa is talented, but he is a genuine front runner.
     
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    I wouldn't compare JuanMa to Hatton - he's much better technically than that. And while his defense isn't the best, his offense is excellent. Plus, he seems to be pretty durable too.
     
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    Gamboa- Too fast, too complete. Lopez obviously has the punchers chance but I just dont see it happening. I have always mentioned Lopez being very sloppy with his punches and I feel he will pay dearly against Gamboa.
     
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    Like I said, a few fights ago, I really thought Gamboa was just too wild and amateurish, and was going to get KO'd soon. But he looked damn good on Saturday, he seems to have improved a lot.

    What makes you think he is a front runner?
     
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    I'm not comparing them stylistically, only that they both have shit defense. And it remains to be seen if Lopez is even as good as a prime Hatton.
     
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    I'd put money on Lopez. JuanMa will hav etrouble with less skilled, brawler kind of fighters. Gamboa isn't that.

    Put Gamboa in with a guy who makes him come to him he's a different fighter. Mtwaga was his height, about the same reach so Gamboa could easily potshot him.

    i see Gamboa living on the end of JuanMa's jab before finally running in getting caught.

    I think JuanMa's got the chin to handle anything Gamboa throws at him...not sure about the other way around.
     
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    You got it all wrong. Juanma's jab? what jab? He never throws a jab! And Juanma has proven to have a weaker chin than Gamboa.
     
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    in what sense?
     
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    :nono:please explain this. Only time I ever seen Juanma hurt was against mtagwa and it had allot to do with exhaustion.
     
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    It seems if Gamboa doesn't get his guy out of there early, he seems to struggle a bit and get sloppy (Darling Jimenez, Roger Gonzalez, etc).

    I think Gamboa is going to be a bit overrated from crushing Bumtagwa. Lopez had a tough time out with Bumtagwa at 122, weight drained, and faded down the stretch. But people forget Lopez was schooling Bumtagwa easily before he faded as well.

    I just feel Lopez will find a way through Gamboa's "hands down" defense.
     
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    I think he means in the sense that even though Gamboa has been down what? 3-4 times? he has never actually been hurt, just flash KD's cuz he gets wild. JuanMa on the other hand has been visibly hurt and in all honesty could have been stopped if with another referee.
    But Yeah I don't really agree, I think he has a good chin, and is durable, especuially at his new weight..
     
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    I went Gamboa, but only like in a 60-40 way....which pretty much reflects the voting so far.
     
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    Did your crystal ball tell you that. :doh:
     
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    Yup.
     
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    I would pay PPV to watch these guys fight, i have no idea who would win.
     
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    I don't know, he didn't mentally crumble against either, I doubt he is another Judah. And at least he stopped Gonzalez late.

    And he didn't almost get taken out, like Lopez did against Mtagwa.

    Honestly, the only way I see Lopez winning is if Gamboa does turn out to be chinny, or mentally fragile like Judah.
     
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    For obvious reasons I back Lopez, but even before and after the Mtagwa fight I've always felt he'd beat Gamboa.


    Panchy, Juanma does have a jab. He didn't make much use of it in his last few fights I agree but he does have a good one.

    If Lopez waits out the early storm and makes Gamboa come to him, I think he breaks him down and finally takes him out in the end.

    Styles make fights. And I think Gamboa has the more glaring defensive flaws and as low as he carries his left, I think Lopez's right hook finds the mark and makes the difference.

    Lopez KO 10
     
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    Puerto - I agree that at face value, Gamboa LOOKS like he has the more glaring defensive flaws. Lopez looks more schooled, and Gamboa looks more flashy, hands down, possibly a bit cocky etc.

    But I think the punches they take speak for themselves.

    Lopez has a tendency to get hit clean, quite a lot, like this...

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    Both guys get hit, without a doubt.

    But I think because of the way Gamboa punches and leaves his arms out there, he'd be more susceptible to the knockout punch in a battle of punchers.


    I tend to think that Lopez(Knowing of Gamboa's KO power) would allow Gamboa to come to him and walk on to his jab.

    If its an early night, I think Gamboa wins. But if the fight goes past the 6th, I think the more experienced Lopez imposes his will and gets him out late.
     
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    JuanMa Counter punching will take him to victory vs. Gamboa. I remember that JuanMa use to be a bit more calmer in the ring, now he seem to go out for the kill every time. Before the came easy now these guys are lasting longer with him and he can't keep his cool.

    He also needs to bring back the jab, leading with the right hook is not a good thing...
     
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    Probably Lopez. Fewers questions about him and from the looks of it, what we do know is that he can take a shit kicking and still battle on.

    Unsure if Gamboa can do that and it'll be an important factor in a fight between the two.
     
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    Agreed, I said before, that's why I wouldn't bet on him. He is the more unproven of the two in a sense. But to me he looks like a significantly better fighter. So unless has does lack balls/chin etc, I think he wins.
     
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    I don't think Juan has been given enough credit for brutally stopping a very solid title holder in seven rounds.
     
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    Luevano was a fucken average champion at best. Solid in as much as he was flesh and bone, little else. He posed zero threat to Juanma, simply based on styles and a massive lack of attacking weapons.

    Now, as for these two? It kinda reminds me of Cotto vs Judah. Judah is the guy with all the raw physical tools, but you have to wonder if he can take what the slower, more predictable Juanma will be guaranteed to dish out.
     
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    It's a fair comparison in a way, but it's assuming that...

    1 - Gamboa lacks mental fortitude and/or a chin, like Judah.

    2 - Lopez is anywhere near as good as Cotto.

    As for number 1 - I have no idea, Gamboa simply hasn't been tested enough to know this.

    And for 2 - well, to be honest I don't think Lopez is anywhere near as good as Cotto. Lopez isn't crap by any means, but he's not much more than an average title holder. Of course Luevano is a below average title holder.
     
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    Yeah that's the big question, and probably the only big question in this fight.
     
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    Gamboa without a doubt. I used to like Lopez but he's been fighting cupcakes lately not to mention he cowardly ducked Caballero.

    Beating Luevano is nothing special. Just picked up a belt.

    The comparison between their fight with Mtagwa says alot. It's not like Gamboa did better it wasn't even close.

    I know that Lopez would present a better fight but I still think GAmboa does everything better and he's getting better.
     

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