Golden Boy Wins Diaz-Katsidis

From Fightnews:

Golden Boy wins Diaz-Katsidis!

A purse bid was held on Monday at WBO Headquarters in San Juan, Puerto Rico for the mandatory lightweight clash between super champion Juan Diaz and interim champion Michael Katsidis. The right to promote the bout was won by the sole bidder Golden Boy Promotions, which bid $1,500,000. The proposed site for the contest is Houston, TX with the stated tentative date the weekend of January 26. The split will be 80/20 ($1,200,000.00 for Diaz and $300,000.00 for Katsidis. The parties must have their contracts signed in ten days from the date of the Purse Bid. If Juan Diaz fails to comply with the purse bid commitment by not signing the contract, Katsidis would immediately become the champion. If Katsidis fails to sign, then Diaz would have up to 18 Months to comply with his mandatory obligation.

Thought about this fight and how does this affect Juan's relationship with King?

Questions immediately pop up...

1). Does Juan take the fight?

2). If he does, what does his contract with King state? Other fighters has stated that King has a provision which gives him half the fighters purse if he loses the purse bid.

3). If Juan gives up the belt, what fights are outthere for him seeing that Pacquaio is most likely headed towards a date with David Diaz.

4). If Juan takes the Katsidis fight, will he still owe King a fight.

 

I don't see that date holding up. If so, then I don't see HBO heading to Germany for Povetkin-Chambers.

Juan should definitely take the fight. Even if he has to split with King (though that rule doesn't apply to every DK fighter, or at least the ones with manager smart and bull-headed enough (like Willie Savannah) to have that clause removed), $600,000 for a Katsidis fight is a nice chunk of change. He could always work out a deal where he also gets X amount at the gate, considering that Houston was mentioned as a venue.

Also as far as the purse bid deal, most contracts state that the promoter is entitled to a slice ONLY if they offer a competitive (though still losing) bid. King raised a big stink because he wouldn't be able to attend the purse bid since he's with the troops in Iraq. The WBO told him he should strongly consider sending a represantitive on his behalf - which translates to "take your cease and desist and shove it."

But for what you mentioned in #3, there's no reason for Juan to not take the fight. If Pac fights Marquez, that leaves David Diaz open. But then you have to ask if that fight is worth both dumping a belt and passing on a payday that comes w/ the Katsidis, for a Diazx2 bout that HBO has yet to express a vested interest.

Juan should take the fight, he'd be foolish to dump a belt without any other fight guaranteed. That is the only reason to give up a title - when something better awaits. Right now, nothing better awaits Juan Diaz.

 

even more interesting is that Jose Alfaro is fighting Prawet Singwancha for the vacant WBA lightweight title

 

even more interesting that you knew about it - or anything else about boxing ::

j/k - but it's for the vacant "regular" title, since Diaz is the supercalifragilistic champion.

 

Sorry, I don't follow boxing. That was a typo ::

 

stick to typos, they make more sense than your usual drivel

 

What date is this fight scheduled to happen on if they both agree to take the fight.

 

does anyone think Katsidid could win this fight?

 

according to the article, January 26. But I thought HBO once upon a time had January 12 reserved, be it Juan-Katsidis, Juan-David, or David-Katsidis (the latter being the original plan)

 

does anyone think Katsidis would've beaten Guzman, had that fight not fallen through?

 

Guzman came off of a year layoff, and injury, and beat the best guy in the division with little problem. He would've beat Katsidis handily.

Cupey

 

I flat out told Guzman's manager that I didn't like the fight. Not that I didn't like Guzman's chances at all. But with diminishing power as he keeps moving up, I thought 135 would be one division too many for him, and not a good thing if boxing alone isn't going to keep someone like Katsidis off of you. Just seemed like there was much more to do at 130, and that it was in too much haste to move up to 135 unless it was for a shot at either Casa or Juan Diaz

So yes, I liked Katsidis' chances big time in that fight.

 

kats is a light-weight who doesn't pick his punches as much and can throws em better shorter. two different fighters all together. i'm not so sure you can make that statement, just based on guzman's questionable win over soto.

 

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what's funny? you think Guzman's stink-job decision win wasn't questionable? when it was Soto landing the telling blows and making the fight?

 

If missing or getting 95% of your punches picked off is winning a fight, than Yeah Soto won.

 

ugh

I'm getting sick of this whole movement by the sport where the fighter coming forward automatically wins a fight. It actually started out as a running joke in Vegas - managers specifically instructing their fighters to always move forward in a Vegas fight, especially one perceived as close - and is now spreading throughout the country, it seems.

I mean damn, even Arum acknowledged that his guy lost.

The final scores were off, but there's no question that Guzman won the fight. Therefore, no I don't consider Guzman's "stink-job" decision win questionable. Or that Soto was landing the telling blows and making the fight.

 

you just like him because he's part of that whole caribean island scene. ::

 

and the whole last name thing.

 

oh. so now Arum's opinions hold weight with you? suddenly? i guess as long as you agree with what he says, he makes for a good quote. meanwhile, when you don't agree with him (most of the time), his word isn't worth a damn?

stick it Jake. ::

 

In all seriousness, though, you'd have to go solely on style points in order to present the argument that Soto won the fight.

 

I didn't see the entire Guzman-Soto fight...I fell asleep after 7 or 8 rounds....

Unless Double can tell me Guzman didn't win a round after 8 and got knocked down once or twice, I can't see any reasonable explanation for having Soto ahead at the end of the night.

With that said...

This is about Diaz vs Katsidis...

I think this is a terrific fight. I wouldn't be surprised to see Juan become more of a boxer-puncher. I hope it happens.

 

Glad to see the best fight in the division is a step closer to being made.

 

good fight!

Arum mentioned that Diaz' contract with King ends in March. Hopefully Diaz signs with Goldenboy following this fight.

 

Agreed. Guzman won that fight clearly, though I had it closer than the judges.

Guzman landed plenty of clean flush shots - and made Soto miss plenty as well.

Peace.

 

the L in double L's name apparently stands for Lasik. the procedure he requires but can't afford before any fight to properly score the bout.

 

I'll gladly bet anyone who is saying that Katsidis has no chance in this fight. If Diaz lands all the punches and avoids getting hit by anything in return...you win. If Katsidis lands though? I win.

Lets make a deal.

 

The only time Diaz will go to boxing is when he will take a mid fight breather and use his jab for a round, maybe 2 rounds in the fight after he has built up a big lead already.
Kenny Weldon came in after Shields was let go and tried to change his style to turn him more into a boxer and he was also dismissed.
Juan is the type of fighter if he starts boxing, the first time he gets hit it will be right back to war in the trenches.
I thought he looked the best he has ever looked vs. Julio under Derwin Richards again.
Juan looked sharp yesterday morning, and is never out of the gym longer than a few days.

 

From what I understand, Katsidis is a physically strong banger. Don't you think it would be wise for Juan to slow the pace somewhat and make Katsidis think more than fight?

I haven't seen katsidis, but from what I gather Juan will have the better boxing skills of the two.

Regardless, what are your thoughts about what I said earlier about whether or not Juan will take the fight? Pac is off the table. Marquez is off the table. $1.2 million is a lot of money to turn down.

 

I would think Mr. Savannah will certainly take the fight, yeppers.
Juan has one style, and he is going to fight that style, as if he tries to box and gets nailed again, it's gonna be on.
I think he gets frustrated when he boxes as he wants to get in there so bad.
I don't know about Katsidis, I was disappointed very much in his last fight.
He looks to be a one-dimensional, come forward banger.
Juan will control the action as he isn't going to be in front of the guy all night, he is gonna be turning him and punching off of 45's and take the steam out of Katsidis to the body.
Katsidis may be more muscular than Juan, but he isn't stronger than Juan, and Juan has a lower center of gravity than the guy does.
Katsidis will do well early but then fade from the blows to the belly, and it will resemble the pattern that has become familiar with Diazs' fights.