Guts Ishimatsu vs Ray Mancini

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Who wins?

    I'd take Guts. He's arguably THE most underrated lightweight.
     
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    No one on this one?
     
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    I think Mancini outhustles Guts in a similar manner as he did JL Ramirez.
     
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    I'd pick Guts as well. That movement, plus the jab should make for a win. I don't think Mancini has more power than Rodolfo, who couldn't stop Guts in two tries. I also don't think he'd be able to pressure Suzuki enough to win the rounds. This fight might well be hard to score due to the styles, but I think Guts' class as a better fighter makes the difference.

    Also, I don't think a shut out of Ramirez is indicative of the level of fighter Mancini was. Ramirez was in a transitional phase, and wasn't yet the pressure fighter he'd be at his best. At that point, he was a counter-puncher, who had a good night against Arguello (who, he, in turn, had a style advantage over). Mancini was stronger, and so didn't let Ramirez set.
     
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    Great post! Agreed with every word.
     
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