Guys Who Really Wanted to Get the Other Guy Out of There...

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  1. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

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    It seems to me that nowadays, many fighters are content to get a decision. It may just be a personal preference, but I like to see boxers who are not content with going the distance. I like seeing boxers that want to get the other guy outta there.

    Maybe it's an arrogance thing: the fighter may think the other guy doesn't belong in the ring. Who do you think are guys who have that desire to stop their opponent? Guys who would put it all out there because they wanted to end the night early.

    Who are your favorite examples? List fights that support your example.
     
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    Salvador Sanchez vs Wilfredo Gomez.

    It's a one off for Sanchez, he wasn't like this, but was, that night.

    Sanchez started fast, something he rarely did. A fight which had been expected to go the full 15 was effectively over by the end of the first.

    Foreman, for the first part of his career, certainly had that mentality.

    Vitali in the early part of his, and part of his first title reign, Wlad also had a swing approach, which he paid for vs Purritty.

    Hamed used to act as if guys didn't belong in the ring with him, which they didn't, thanks mainly to Frank Warren.
     
  3. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Tyson obviously.

    That was the mindset the moment the bell rang.
     
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    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Man, I was going to go with a couple of other examples like Nigel Benn or Jackson but really, all pale in comparison to Tyson.

    There was no pretense. There was no set-up. He had one singular mission.
     
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    Gerald McClellan...since the person above me mentioned Benn and Jackson. :lol:
     
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    My first thought was Benn-McClellan

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    Yep, it wasn't just that he was a big puncher. All puncher's look for the KO to some degree, but you like said there was no pretense or subtlety with Tyson. Everybody in the arena including the opponent knew exactly what was going to happen once the bell rang.

    No interviewer would ever have to ask Mike "Were you looking for the knockout?" :lol:
     
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    Trinidad is another guy that comes to mind. Knockout was on his mind in every fight. Needless to say this had a down side with Tito.
     
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    Yeah Tito had that mindset....yet despite that & his huge power was a very average at best finisher.

    Naz was a good example.
     
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    certainly Jack Dempsey fits the mold beautifully
     
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    Tyson
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    So would most fighters versus the guys he fought.:shadow:
     
  13. Trplsec

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    If you say so. I'm not going to get into a quality of competition debate.

    All I'm saying is Tyson went right after the guy across the ring from him. Whether it was a frightened little Marvis Frazier or one of the best HW's in history like Holmes, the approach was exactly the same. It was a KO hunt from bell one. Period.
     
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    Yes. Bad Intentions and all that.
     
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    Good example.
     
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    ODH (early in his career)

    MAB (early in his career)

    Vargas

    Corrales

    Darchinyan
     
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    ODLH when he fought Mayorga

    MAB and Morales when they fought each other.
     
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    Roy Jones when he fought Montell Griffin the second time.
     
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    They've showed the fight a few times on ESPN Classic Canada. (I don't know if it has been brought up in U.S. versions) Anyway, one of the regular hosts here Russ Anber mentioned that Roy told some journeyman boxer (don't recall the name) to bet everything he had the fight wouldn't last more than two rounds.
     
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    Jones-Griffin II was a good example of a guy just wanting to make the other guy disappear quickly.

    Another one is Chavez-Haugen after Haugen taunted him all week and made derogatory remarks about his career and about Mexicans. Chavez knocked him down with the first punch of the fight. Then after realizing he could do what he wanted, just toyed with him and clowned him for a few rounds before finishing him.

    Mr. KO himself. Juliian Letterlough though against weaker opposition. Unfortunately there was a gunmen that wanted to get him out of there quickly.

    And of course, Butterbean.
     
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    I think that's almost the opposite. Chavez of course wanted to stop Haugen, but certainly not end it just whenever he could. I think he was maybe even a bit surprised how easily he floored Haugen early.

    Chavez wanted to punish him. If it just about getting the knockout he would have followed up and ended it right then and there.
     
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    You're right but Chavez usually didn't start fast like that. He came out hard, floored his ass. Then decided to toy with him and embarrass Haugen. I was referring to his mindset at the beginning. Much different than his other fights. Haugen really got to him. He said before the fight that he couldn't even look at Haugen without wanting to vomit. After the fight he said "those 60 Tijuana cab drivers (which Haugen kept saying were on JCC's record) were tougher than him (Haugen)"
     
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    Yep, i think the only other opponent that Chavez came into against with actual disdain for was Camacho.

    Chavez couldn't stop him because Camacho not only had a great chin but could run and hold with the best. Probably one of the hardest guys to stop ever.

    I still think that even if Julio was able to take Camacho out at any point. (like Haugen) he would have prolonged the beating in similar fashion.
     
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    Aaron Pryor, hands down.
     
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    No Pacquiao love?
     
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    Vince Phillips, another good one.
     
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    Valero didn't just want to get the other guy out of there.
     
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    Murderer..sure. But we're talking boxing here.
     

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