Hagler vs Froch

Is Froch too big? Or is Marvin just soooo much more talented and skilled that he could overcome the size difference?

 

No way does Froch beat Hagler. Hagler would have to work for it. But he'd get it done.

 

Agreed. I think Marvin only needs the first few rounds to figure out Froch. From there, it'd be an outclassing.

 

Impossible to tell for sure how Hagler's style and strengths would have worked against a bigger guy and maybe there was a reason he never tried it. That said, chances are that he was too good for Froch anyway

 

He didn't try it because he would have had to move up 15 pounds, instead of 8. I don't fault Hagler for not trying his hand at Spinks, just as I don't fault Monzon for not trying to face Foster. Would Carlos and Marvin would have gotten knocked out.

 

This. Odds are that froch strength and size make it competive, but marvin is too sharp, skilled and slick for him. 116-112 kind of fight imo

 

I realize that but Froch at 168 lbs was the size of light-heavyweights and naturally a very strong man. Thus Hagler would have to deal with something he never experienced

 

Sounds correct to me

 

Actually I don't think Froch was much of a blower upper (I know thats not a word). I seem to remember that he wasn't a guy who put on 15+ pounds in 24 hours. He was a true super middleweight in every sense - too big for middle, too small to be a light heavy.

 

Froch had a funny way of throwing a right hand- not funny, it was flat out wrong and it should have been corrected when he first started. When he threw his right hand, he would walk forward with his right foot and square up. That is how Groves nailed him. When I saw him fight the southpaw Bute, I thought that it was something he was doing strategically and it worked because Bute was reluctant to punch back.
In Hagler, he is facing a "southpaw' that is, I have noticed recently, seriously right hand dependent. Never noticed it before. But the way that Froch throws his right hand plays into this- Hagler would counter the Froch right with a right hook and Froch would literally walk into it. Fran Botha threw his right hand the same way and had the same issue with Moorer, another right handed lefty.

 

Great breakdown Grey.

 

I see this as a near carbon copy of the Hamsho fight. Hagler beats the everliving fuck out of Froch.