Has MMA Become the Dumbest Sport in America (audio)

Discussion in 'General MMA Discussion' started by admin, Oct 25, 2008.

  1. admin

    admin has left the building

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2003
    Messages:
    6,436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Among the issues raised in this no holds barred commentary are how this sport was once a brilliant laboratory and school where discussion of technique was the order of the day, the imitation of the vulgar fake pro "wrestling" by UFC, the hatred of grappling by EliteXC which eventually led to the self-destruction of that company, the preposterous idea by Affliction of a creating a "reality" show to find an opponent for top heavyweight and pound-for-pound MMA fighter Fedor Emelianenko, the continued reliance on the technologically obsolete pay-per-view television model, and more.

    You can play No Holds Barred at
    http://www.fightbeat.com/radioshow.php
     
  2. jarhead

    jarhead Undisputed Champion

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2006
    Messages:
    4,654
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Operations Manager
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    MMA is evolving and growing rapidly. I hope they can stay away from the temptation to go torwards the pro wrestling crap. But they also have a big fan base of "those" pro wrestling type fans who pay almost religiously for each PPV, I am sure they don't want to lose that.
     
  3. admin

    admin has left the building

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2003
    Messages:
    6,436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well that's what Goldman argues, that's their target audience. Stupid WWE fans who buy into the stories.

    cupey
     
  4. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    15,838
    Likes Received:
    79

    He's wrong.


    TFK
     
  5. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    30,692
    Likes Received:
    4
    Excellent rebuttal. :bears:
     
  6. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    15,838
    Likes Received:
    79
    What else needs to be said?

    I didn't even bother listening, because just by reading the summary, with the words 'vulger, hatred, self-destruction, prepostorous and technologically obsolete', you can see that it's gonna be an inaccurate, biased, shit commentary.

    And Cupey calls wrestling fans who buy into stories 'stupid'. What a ridiculous comment. Fans of every sport buy into stories. Fans didn't tune into the Hopkins\Pavlik fight because of the story of the aged warrior facing the young upstart fighter? People didn't tune into the Superbowl to see the underdog Giants face the unbeatable and unbeaten Patriots? People are watching the World Series this week to see if the perennial cellar dwellar Rays can do the impossible and win the franchise's first Championship.

    Regardless, MMA isn't turning any more similiar to Pro Wrestling than Boxing, Football, Baseball or Hockey are.


    TFK
     
  7. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2002
    Messages:
    17,162
    Likes Received:
    1,714
    Home Page:
    Big part of boxing's popularity is about the stories included.

    According to Aristoteles the three factors which make a story exciting is that you know the participants, there are two hostile sides and you support one of them and that there is the feeling about the final solution coming.

    Boxing has always had great from rags to riches stories where one of the guys gets all the sympathy trying to tackle the seemingly unbeatable opponent. Also the feeling about sudden ending is stronger in boxing than at any other sport.

    The problem with boxing these days have been the fact that the participants are not well-known enough, they don't represent any group of people like they used to. That is the very reason why we have countdowns and 24/7 shows: to make the guys more familiar and thus the fight comes more exciting.

    When there is a good story and a situation where a sympathic fan-favorite meets superior opponent, boxing still makes the headlines. Such cases were ODLH-Mayweather and Hatton-Mayweather. That is the very same reason why a farce like Pacman-ODLH will be the biggest event of the year: people don't want to watch boxing, it is the story they care about.

    Same thing goes for UFC. The reason for the showbusiness included is to rise the three excitement factors. The feeling about end coming is there already but the fighters are not well known and thus they lack the hostility factor. It will take decades before UFC is an actual major sport which doesn't need extra hype.

    I did my masters degree about excitement in sports broadcasts btw:partie:
     
  8. jarhead

    jarhead Undisputed Champion

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2006
    Messages:
    4,654
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Operations Manager
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    I don't think the "stupid" WWE fan is their target audience, but I think it is a part of their whole audience. And those beer chugging, trailer park living folks buy PPV's. And promoters love people who buy PPV's regardless of their intellect. What is funny is listening to Rogan get so mad at those fans when they boo non-action fights. :atu: Rogan is a retard.
     

Share This Page