Has Williams improved so much, or can Margarito not handle southpaws?

Daniel Santos also controlled most of the early rounds against Margarito, and if you look at the early rounds of Williams vs. Matthysse Walter was able to land flush powershots on Williams in a fight that was pretty even for five rounds before Matthysse tired badly. Margarito really seems to struggle to find the target against southpaws, maybe he should stay away from them. He just can´t cut them off effectively like he does with orthodox fighters. Or was Williams just better than ever and more focused yesterday.:dunno:

 

Well not many fighters preferr southpaws, some do struggle worse than others to contend with the stance, but I think maybe it's also because Margarito starts slowly, and against a relatively accurate puncher who's capable of throwing 1300 punches per fight, that's never gunna help him out, but by the same token, I don't think Margarito can start any faster, it's like saying "if only Zab Judah.............."

Paul Williams is just a fucking awkward, and difficult fighter to beat, not just for Margarito but for anybody, and if he and Margarito fought again it would probably end up another close and entertaining scrap, and as boxing fans, that's what we want, that's what's most important, none of that pre-glamorous, post-horseshit Fraud - De La Hoya type of fights,..with threads celebrating how much money they made and how many ppv's they sold afterwards. whoopti fucken doo.

 

Williams has improved, whilst Margarito is just slow and limited.

 

Honestly, I cant remember the last time I saw you post w/o mentioning Floyd at least once. Get off his dick, PLEASE!

 

Here's a rhetorical question,.. why are one hundred percent of all Fraud fans, Margarito haters?...

Shameless hypocrisy X.

 

My dislike for Phony has nothing to do with Floyd. If it had something to with him being Floyd's rival, than I would dislike Hatton also, but I dont dislike Ricky. My hate for Margarito comes from his arrogance, and from his groupies hyping him to be some monster, when I've never seen him as anything more than just simply good. He went life and death with Antonio fuckin Diaz!

 

:laughing: You're a devout Fraud fan yet you're hating a fighter for thier 'arrogance'???..:doh: awwwwwww...you should've been one of them more rational groupies who deflects mild embarrasment by stating "I don't care what he says outside of the ring"..seriously, it's what's best for you,..this example is precisely what I mean X,..Fraud has dumped a tonne of shit on you groupies, to the extent where realistically, you should be seized up like stone, how can you guys criticize any other fighter for thier conduct inside or outside of the ring?,..this is what happens when you elevate Fraud above the entire sport, there appears to be double standards for everyone else,.. that's why I make reference to Fraud's precedents, virtually every time I post. :nono:

 

I'm not even a groupie you fool. I admit Floyd is a dickhead, but I have eyes and I can see he's head and shoulders above Phony. At least back in the day when ppl complained Roy was ducking DM, Michealsheski was a beast. For the life of me why cant you see how ordinary Phony is.

 

not true at all

 

An overwelming majority, seem to hate Margarito because he hurt the sociopaths ego, Margarito only wanted to fight him in it's most simplistic form, that was his aim, Bob Arum added a slightly more sinister twist based on debateable facts behind the scenes of the Top-rank stable, it was Fraud's media captured reactions that complimented Bob's side of the story well, which ultimately, lead to a cycle of violence on forums. But this little snippet, is just a tiny chapter, of the disgrace that Fraud has caused to boxing, and it's image, and that's been my focus. Fraud groupies on the other hand, have not forgotten that little traumatising episode of mid last year, and have held it firmly against Tony ever since.

 

Williams was more focused yesterday...for the first 6 rounds he fought flawlessly. Margarito did not LAND anything worth a shit in at less 5 of those 6 rounds. Then finally when Margarito started throwing to the body without concer of what was coming back thats when he started winning rounds, at first he was fighting as if Williams could hurt him.....

 

:crafty: According to Arum,......Margarito-Cotto is still on!,..and once Antonio pries Cotto's belt and balls off in one nasty eagle-like snatch, unification will consist of two revenge bouts, both of which Margarito will win.

 

If Cotto vs. Margarito is on....then Margarito will get KOTFO and myth of the "MONSTER" will be over....::

People still calling Margarito a MONSTER a BEAST because he lose to Williams...a PROSPECT...he should've KO him inside of 6-7 rounds...BUT he really isn't that good...i guess.




OHH and Margarito is going to give ARUM all the fight OPTIONS...he wants now....::::

 

Let's get real.

If Fraud and Paul fought, Fraud's style wouldn't allow him to win a SINGLE round.

Paul over Fraud by UD, 120-108, 120-108, 120-108

 

I know what you mean,.. Margarito can't be called a beast unless he's swooning and hoola hooping around the ring in a pouty paranoid state of dettachment against playmate poof Corley and Jose Torres,..or buzzed with the frequency of a wasps nest against the glass butterfly, shewy shewy Judah in a rather slow, conventional, sulky wooden wheel cart of a snag pull, until finally, he rolls over the top of Judah like a limp cow,..:eeeek: and celebrates the way Fraud did after he beat Gatti...:: Cotto screamed and had buck teeth like a fucken juicey eyed bunny.. what a girl. So I see, yes, Margarito has his work cut out for him if he ever has ambitions to be labelled an 'unstoppable beast' someday. Psssslthhffft

 

Losing to a Prospect and Former sparring partner = NOT a BEAST....

 

Williams is a good fighter, he will give most fighters fits. But also I feel that Margarito is very overrated. He is extremely slow, and usually wins his fights from his toughness and workrate. Any good boxer will beat Margarito every time. I like Williams a lot, but I feel that he won't be able to stay at this weight class long, and since he doesn't have much of a punch at this weight class, he may have a tough time at the higher weight classes.

 

dsimon writes:

That is funny if the Cotto Margarito fight is still on. Kauli you may be right, now that Margarito has been exposed his prospects may improve considerably!::. Catch 22 like so manythings in life applies to boxing.


IMO I don't hate on Margarito. But when you go a little below his weight class all the way through to the jockeys that weigh less than my 110 pound wife, you can find guys who are decent, well accomplished, technically sound fighters. These guys are a tough time for anybody, but they are not great fighters.

Margarito IMO is not really as accomplished as a lot of these guys. He fights like a traditional Mexican fighter but without the polish, the instinct and work rate that a lot of these guys seem to have in the lower divisions. Yet people talk about Margarito as though he has great punching ability, great work rate and the technical skills to challenge at the elite level of his division. I think this is false. I think Margarito will always be a tough challenge and a solid second teire guy.