Hatton plans to fight Lazcano and Malignaggi

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  1. salaco

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    What's the Problem???:dunno:

    Lazcano's a Good "Comeback" Fight & Hatton's Gonna UNIFY N his Next Bout (Malignaggi or Torres)...

    If Junior Witter Handles HIS OWN Business N 2008, Hatton will have NO CHOICE but to Fight him N 2009....


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  3. Double L

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    i agree. lazcano is a good choice - better than paulie imo. i wouldn't rule out a lazcano victory actually. he's under-rated imo.

    he can be out-worked, but he can also hurt you to the body. remeber what he did to steveie Johnston and Molina? he's no push over. stylistically, not unlike Chavez, although longer and obviously not as good. but he's not a dumb fighter.
     
  4. salaco

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    I'd much prefer to have him fight Witter than Malignaggi, Witter I would rate higher at this point and their shared history gives it extra meaning...who knows where both will be in 2009, it would be a shame if we ended up seeing it a few fights after each of them have significantly passed their best...

    Its not as intriguing a matchup of styles either, it figures to be ugly...
     
  5. salaco

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    lazcano hasn't looked too hot recently, the guy who beat Johnston is gone
     
  6. Double L

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    you might have a point. but look he's fought some tough guys. at 140 he might not be the killer he was at 135.
     
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    Johnston was a boxer who'd slowed down to the point where he was hittable enough that Lazcano could eventually stop him. His legs weren't what they were in his prime.

    Lazcano is solid, he gave Harris a pretty tough fight, but then so did Maussa.

    Hatton may still be referred to as the champ, but he's clearly avoiding the number one contender.
     
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    come 2009 there will be another excuse not to fight Witter.

    Why does Lazcano deserve the fight now and not Witter who is a champion at 140?:dunno:

    clearly Witter doesn't need to earn it more than the rest of the 140 fighters. Hatton simply don't wanna fight him.
     
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    Lazcano gave Harris a tought fight. Maussa beat the fuck out of him. :lol:
     
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    i dont know what version of lazcano double l is referring to, but the recent version i saw was a guy who gave further indications that harris was faded and a guy who got a gift vs. some journeyman fighter in texas.

    lazcano even at his best was not very good.
     
  11. Double L

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    it's all about money. Witter thinks he's a star so he wants a cut that's probably 2-3 times the cut Lazcano would take.

    plus,. Hatton./Witter would be boring as hell anyways if you think about it.
     
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    dude it's about fighting the best. Witter is among the best at 140 and i'ts a local rivalry in England.

    Witter's power and Hatton's brawling style would give an entertaining fight. Aside from the fact that they really dislike each other.

    Stop giving excuses not to fight him. Witter is a champion and is better than Lazcano. Of course he should get paid more than him.

    Again, Witter can win all the belts and at the end Hatton can simply say the shit you just said that it wouldn't make a good fight or he don't wanna give him a payday because he disrespected him.

    There's plenty of excuses if you wanna use them. :popcorn:
     
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    But that's just It...Hatton DID Fight "The Best"...Floyd Mayweather...& he Lost DECISIVELY...

    REED Doesn't Fault a Guy @ ALL for Coming Off his 1st Loss w/a "Gimme" Fight...& Hatton's Following that Up by UNIFYING...

    Hatton-Witter WILL Happen Eventually...By Late 08-Early 09, Hatton will have NO CHOICE but to Fight Witter...@ this Point, Hatton's just Making him SQUIRM a Bit & Hoping he gets BEAT 1st...


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    He fought the best at 147.

    When it comes to 140, the only fighter he fought that was really close to it was Tszyu.

    He accomplished very little up to that point before the fight...and he had the opportunity to against Sharmba Mitchell.

    He did fight two other champions, but Maussa was a journeyman champion and Urango hadn't exactly proven himself a worthy champion after his win over Ben Rabah (he was also fortunate to "draw" Arnaoutis, IMO).

    He's returning to a division he's supposedly the champion of, yet he's fighting a fringe contender at best...and that's to set up a fight with a guy who barely retained his title his last time out.

    If Hatton is even remotely interested in proving he's still really the champion, he'd fight Witter.
     
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    But "The Best @ 147" ALSO Happens to B "The Best" N the ENTIRE WORLD...

    N Just his LAST Fight, Hatton Took On as DAUNTING a Task as there Is N Boxing...He Fought the BEST Fighter N the World, Lb 4 Lb...& he Got KO'ed...

    Surely we can Cut a Guy SOME Slack, Given THOSE Circumstances???...


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  16. Mitchell Kane

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    It's not about him fighting Lazcano his first fight back.

    I have no problems with that.

    It's that it's intended to line-up Hatton-Malignaggi.
     
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    Maybe it's just REED, but it Seems Kinda NITPICKY to Criticize a Guy for UNIFYING...

    If Witter just CONTINUES to WIN, Everything will Take Care of ITSELF...


    REED:cool:
     
  18. ILLUMINATI

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    Witter should stop crying....and try to unify against Malignaggi or Torres...against Malignaggi forget about it..Witter will have to travel to NY..to fight..Malignaggi has a much bigger fanbase...

    vs. Torres that can happen in the UK.....

    stop bitching..Witter...unify....then Hatton vs. Witter can be SET.....for the UNDISPUTED...
     
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    Unifying what? The Ring magazine belt and the IBF belt?

    Hatton's "champoin" status is a bit tenuous, considering the circumstances. He's been a part-time junior welterweight since he beat Tszyu, while Junior Witter has clearly established himself as the #1 contender if not the best junior welterweight in the world, yet Hatton has expressed no interest in fighting him.

    In fact, it's been the exact opposite.

    People in Hatton's camp say Witter's not even deserving of the fight (like his lawyer: "In our opinion Junior brings nothing to the table. Unless things change dramatically there is no way he is going to fight Ricky Hatton.")

    However you want to look at the situation, Hatton avoided fighting Sharmba Mitchell when he was widely regarded as the best junior welterweight in Tszyu's stead (when he was out and his return was questioned) and he's ducked Junior Witter.
     
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    Thank U...

    Instead of Sitting Around, CRYING about being "Ducked", Make some OTHER Fights that will Make it IMPOSSIBLE for U to B "Ducked"...


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    I agree about witter moving on and looking for other big fights.

    but let's call it like it is. For years Hatton has said he dont' wanna fight Witter. So let's not pretend it's a case where Witter don't deserve the fight and the rest of the 140 division does.

    I"m sure if Witter was to win another belt Hatton would give another reason why he is not worthy.

    To me that's the problem with Hatton. He came back to 140 carrying the tittle of being the best yet he don't have to prove it. The Tszyu fight was years ago.

    I don't care that he fought Floyd that was at 147 and getting his ass humiliated is not exactly something to brag about. I assume he came back at 140 to rule that division not to pick and choose who he likes. That's bullshit.

    He will probably never fight Witter and there will always be an excuse as to why he shouldn't. :dunno: which is why I agree that Witter should move on.
     
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    I think Hatton vs. Witter will happen soon...well in the next 18 months...but Witter needs to try a bit harder....fighting D. Hopkins is not going to cut it.....beating a bunch of guys in the UK isn't pressuring Hatton enough...so maybe WITTER should come to the states...and take on Torres, Malignaggi, and any other fucker with oen of the of major titles...

    How/where is Witter going to MOVE ON..:dunno:..all roads at 140 have to go through Hatton.....as long as Hatton is there Witter will NEVER be the man...unless Hatton gets beat there...and WItter moving up to 147 is murder...
     
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    Witter offered to take 30% with Hatton getting 70%. Considering he has a belt and Hatton doesn't, and other factors, it's an overly generous offer. Unfortunately for Witter, it's not about money for Hatton, at least when it comes to Witter.
     
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    well Hatton always said he doesn't want Witter to make any money...so 30% purse vs. Hatton..is probably 2-3x more than Witter has ever done for a fight...
     
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    so what exactly did Urango, Lazcano, or Torres do to become a possible oponent for Hatton? Nothing!

    Again it just seems like Witter has to clean up the divison to be considered while the rest just have to wait for their name to be picked from a hat :lol:

    18 months don't = soon! :laughing:

    I remember when Witter won the WBC belt I read Hatton's reactions and he said that nothing will change and he would never give him the fight. Does that sound like winning bigger fights will do it for Witter? :dunno:

    Which is why I agree Witter should move on. But it's a little tough when they label Hatton the best based on a win from years ago without proving it anymore. :popcorn:
     
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    Hatton beat Tszyu and Castillo....thats better than anything Witter has done ever....so he beat Vivian Harris...so WHAT!!? HATTOn beat his father CARLOS MAUSSA>....

    18 months or less...it all depends on Witter...he can sit around crying like a bitch..or he can step up..and clean out the division and FORCE Hatton into the ring...fighitng D. Hopkins isn't exactly a move towards that....:doh:...Witter whole career has been about wanting to fight HATTON.....why don't he call out Malignaggi...or Torres...cross the pond get in Malignaggi face the metrosexual is gutsy...he might sign a fight....

    but no...Witter man love for Hatton...won't let him look at other dicks...:nono:..he wants the pale pinky....
     
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    The Hopkins fight is off.
     
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    dude everyone is gunning for Hatton because he is supposed to be the best. The problem is he was labeled that shit years ago and hasn't proven it.

    what't the point in having Paulie and Witter around when he will fight Lazcano, Urango, or fucking or the least known and shittiest fighter available? :dunno:

    If Hatton fights Lazcano he should just record one of his sparring sessions and televise that shit. Lazcano was ok at 135 and is fucking less than average at 140.

    Just cause Floyd bet the fuck out of him it's ok to follow it up with this clown?:lol:

    seriously man, my biggest knock is on hatton not witter, I already agreed Witter should move on. but in the mean time Hatton will fight Lazcano and probably follow it up with GAvin reese.:doh:
     
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    good..........hopefully he fights Malignaggi or Torres....clean out the top of the division...if Hatton doesn't fight you...then move on...and up..and get beat by Margarito....or Clottey...
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    SURE it's okay for Hatton to fight Lazcano....he just came out of the biggest fight of his career, probably trained the hardest..and GOT KO'ed..he should have an easy tune up....Lazcano is SHOT and SHIT...but he is still better fighter than 33-34 of the guys in WITTER resume....:dunno:

    according to the article Hatton is going to fight Malignaggi...after Lazcano....maybe Witter should set up a fight against Torres.....

    or like you said....alien boy should just move on....and UP...to get bludgeon.
     

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