How does Pacquiao cope with his first PRIME African American Fighter?

Inexplicably this little man has managed to rise to the top of the P4P ranks without beating a single African American fighter in his prime?

HUGE question mark, IMO. Unproven. beating up OLD (already beaten up by Floyd) Shane Mosley doesn't count.

Think about it:

Pac has made a name off beating ANCIENT part time promoter De La Hoya who was weight drained, Hatton who already knew what it was like to be knocked out and lose that sense of invincibility (after Nando was KO'd by Trinidad he suddenly became more vulnerable too), Cotto (decent win though) who was still recovering from having his face rearranged by Margarito's cement gloves, Margarito who had recently been knocked the fuck out and dominated by Mosley.

These wins mean nothing...without having prevailed over a prime African American....that slickness and speed combination is something that Manny hasn't proven to be able to prevail over.


Mexican sluggers, old promoters, stationary Africans, rugged English Whiteboys, one-foot-in-the-grave sluggers....is not a good enough resume at this level.

Especially after struggling yet again with ancient tiny Marquez.

He needs to beat Bradley to prove that he ever deserved to be P4P number 1 and have even the ability to negotiate parity with the great Mayweather.

Against Bradley I think Pac struggles and is exposed for the opportunistic bully of limited hispanic sluggers that he is.

As great as Pac is...his time has finally come.

Thus is the word of The Sly One!!

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Bradley won at all, but like others have stated, it's more of a right time, right place thing. Pacquiao looked to be going through the motions against Shane and Marquez, it seems his heart isn't really in it anymore.

I would take the 2009 Pacquiao to beat Bradley up in pretty 1 sided fashion.

It's kind of unfair to use this as a barometer against Pacquiao, when he is near the end of his career and significantly past his best.

I think you know it too, you're just trolling.

 

Mayweather gets up from every fight...MONEY TEAM always KNOWS what time it is....

 

But like Mexican said....Bradley beating Pacquiao not because he is better but because the time is right.....Pacquiao is not a self motivator like MONEY...Pac needs that competition, less time he was IN IT in a fight was against Miguel Cotto....ever since he has been on cruise control.


ALSO this fight seem PUSH on Pacquiao and Roach it seems to be they didn't want to fight Bradley, but who else was out there?? This fight wasnt part of their MASTEr PLAN...

 

This fights smells like an upset.

 

I expect a great fight. I think Bradley's gonna come to Pac and light a fire under the little midgets ass. No more chasing reluctant dance partners. Down syndrome power will be unleashed again and the sky will coloured black with frightened birds.

 

Bradley might do what we discussed earlier, and be the reluctant half.

 

So Clottey wasn't in his prime?

 

Accra, Guana, NY

 

Clottey has American citizenship

 

A his weight and below its usually dominated by latino fighters so not that surprising really but I wouldn't t be that surprised if Timmy beats him

 

Not an African American.

 

Who cares if he is african american? Pacs gonna whoop his ass whatever color he is.

 

So you're claiming that being African American makes one a better boxer than if they are African? Ike Quartey, Dick Tiger, and Azumah Nelson would take exception to this.

He has lived in the US since 2003. He fought Pac in 2010. What would his advantage be if he had been born in the States?

 

Yeah where do you draw the line?

What if Bradley had been born in like, Chad, and moved to the US when he was 10, would he also not be eligible for the "African American" label?

 

Is Lennox Lewis Jamaican-Canadian, Jamaican-British, or British-Canadian? Does any of it matter?

It sounds like someone wants to claim Pacquaio ducked African-Americans? Floyd is refusing to fight Pacquaio, so it seems he's fighting the best guy available who he hasn't already beaten.

 

And of course, now that Pacquaio is fighting Bradley, Sly is claiming that Pacquiao is going to lose because Bradley is African-American. It sounds like idiocy to me. Pac is a fighter who has moved up through many weight classes and is nearing the end of his career.

It's like saying Georges Carpentier only achieved the acclaim he did because he had never fought an Irish-Cherokee-American before (Jack Dempsey).

 

I think Sly was referring to more the african-american style (especially of recent vintage)

Though, I question whether Bradley can be painted with that brush, he's hardly a fancy dan

 

Exactly.

I also consider him a more dangerous opponent than say, Zab Judah, who by all means has the style Sly is referring to.

 

word.

I was also trying to start some trouble. The thread turned out to be far more civil than I had intended. :giggle:

Truthfully, i understand why Pac hasn't yet fought an African American (to be contrasted with an African). African Americans are bigger on average than Mexicans and Asians and so wouldn't frequent the lower weights that Pac's been residing in for most of his career. Still...I do find it intriguing to see him finally face one in his prime.

But Pac has already proven his point without having to face one.

Saying all of that...Bradley may well beat him. i have it as a pick'em.

 

Pacquiao only fears 2 things. Black men and needles. Pac's boogeyman is a black man with a needle.

 

This will be your second completely wrong prediction in two months. Who you have for Khan/Peterson? If that fight comes off, maybe you can manage three.

 

Some seem to think Bradley is Micheal Nunn or something. He's more Rocky Lockridge than Donald Curry. Pacquiao will have no trouble finding him. I won't be surprised at all to see a picturesque KO, not unlike his one over Hatton.



Btw, does everyone see how pac and pbf promote each other's fights? Feed off each other's publicity? All tangled up in hbo's snotty programming?

Pbf should go into politics after this. Anyone notice his response to the question of 50/50 with an outright lie about drug testing being in the way? A lie no doubt intended for the larger uninformed ppv audience for whom truth is no longer requisite?

 

No way Bradley wins. Pacquiao will look bad, but he's way too much for Timmy.

 

This is just a stupid thread which is nothing more than an opportunity to nitpick Pacs opposition. What the TS doesnt realize is than anyone can just as easily nitpick Mayweathers opponents the same way. Lol @ Cotto "a decent win though" to bolster Floyds recent win over him.

 

If todays African-American needs synthetic testosterone to beat an Asian, then I quake for the future of this once-dominant race. ray:

{of course Khan is jacked up on this and that and the other}

 

the ever so slick Erik Morales even gave Pac a schooling

 

Here's a neat tie-in for Tim Bradley. One of the guys he fought on the way up was Alfonso Sanchez. Sanchez was famously stopped by Micky Ward in the 7th round, as shown in the movie The Fighter.

Bradley KO'd Sanchez in 1 round and retired him. Sanchez never fought again.

 

so Bradley KO'd a bum that was KO'd by another bum?

that IS a nice tie-in :goodnews:


i wonder if any other fighters out there have fought someone that Ward has fought

 

::

I was about to politely ask Buddy just what tied in with what. :dunno:

Bradley is probably a bit better than Ward. He's yet to prove it, but I think he is.

Khan would probably get stopped by Ward having dominated large parts of the fight.