There is something seriously suspect about the judging in almost all of Taylor's fights. BUT there is also something suspect in fans scoring taylor rounds. The brit commentators last night were fucking way off base as per usual, darke and mccrory don't know what the fuck they are on about half the time. They thought Taylor was in control and winning the fight going away, which could be what persuaded some people like OCAZ to think that was really the case. The fact is simple. As some have aluded to in the last 24 hours, including myself, Taylor is a nervous, wired fighter. Nervous energy burns CONSTANTLY. And with taylor's constant fucking fidgeting and shuffling around every second of the round can fool the naive eye into thinking he is the "busier" fighter or is doing more work, outworking the opponent etc. Which, of course, is bollocks. He just shuffles around like an idiot expending unnecessary energy, not even landing any clean punches, and people somehow give him the round. Now like Musze and a few others, I gave Taylor a 10-8 round 2 and that's it, I thought Pavlik won the rest. Pavlik's timing and length on the jab was superb, and was controlling taylor, backing him up, snapping his head back, driving him into the ropes etc etc. My arse was taylor in control of that fight. It's possible that there is no corrupt judging at all, and they are simply morons who see fit that fidgeting and shuffling is part of the scoring criteria, ring generalship perhaps? Though I don't believe this to be the case. There's simply too many fights where the scoring has been too generous to taylor. DiBellend's handiwork to be sure to be sure.
I had it about even, darke and mccrory were caught by the flashiness of taylor's combos when he occasionally fired back...they were missing pavlik's jab, focusing instead on his predictability and upright style
I´m shocked to hear that, I thought you´d score it 10-10 and say the knockdown doesn´t really count, because Pavlik wanted to get knocked down. ::
Taken from my post in another thread: Taylor's nerves impress judges! I was leery of outright saying this before, but not anymore. It's the way he does things. When he throws hooks, jabs, or combos, the man dosn't look like he's throwing punches...he looks like he's trying to slay a forty-foot long dragon with a sword in his hand and if he can't do it it's the end of the world. The sheer DRAMA of the way he fights is enough to carry a round. While ther is a hint of sarcasm in my response, this really does bear out. The close rounds that Taylor wins in any fights always comes down to him "doing a bit more." When for the most part he doesn't throw many more punches, and usually doesn't come close to landing more. For this fight after 6, I think the mix in general was 3-3 even (so Taylor ahead) or 4-2 Pavlik, I was surprised to see 5-1 either way, and I have some trouble swllowing 4-2 Taylor. I had it 4-2 Pavlik. In this fight it was easy to see when both guy's punches were landing, and Pavlik's jab was consistently driving Taylor back in a majority of rounds...how was he not controlling the fight?
REED Must Say that he was SHOCKED when he Heard the Scorecards... if,If,IF Taylor was "Winning" @ the Time of the Stoppage, it was BARELY...Certainly NOT by a 3-4 Point Margin... REED:nono:
I just can't see 3-3. 4-2 ok. Pavlik was winning the fight, Pavlik knew it, Taylor knew it. Damn, just look at the post fight interview with Jermain, in his own words "I thought I was losing".
Which of course is an ignorant and narrow minded way to look at a fight. Pavlik was landing the cleaner punches, outjabbing taylor, and pushing him back. I really like Jim Watts, he is cool and generally knows how to score a fight. Darke and McCrory? I can't fucking stand them, they don't have a clue.
And when told by Merhcant in the interview afterwards that he was behind, Kelly's own words: "Really? I thought I was winning."
I had it 3-3; with the 5th being a very close, tactical round that I can see some giving to Pavlik (I had Taylor edging it). The 6th to me was pretty clearly a Taylor round. No doubt there are things in Taylor's style that can sway the perception of a round -- and the fact that he was throwing combinations pretty consistently this time helped. But to me, folks that are saying that Pavlik absolutely controlled this fight and was up 5-1 maybe are giving his big, long punches too much credit...he was having trouble landing clean in spots, especially in rounds 5 and 6 (though by the end of the 6th he had started to come on again). Pavlik was coming forward, but Taylor in spots did better than expected in fighting off the back foot and countering off the Pavlik jab. There was a SENSE that Kelly was eventually going to take over (as I expected) and his punches where the bigger/cleaner ones...but it was a competitive fight and Taylor at minimum won 2 rounds (3 on my card). Peace.
I had Taylor losing every round except for the 2nd. How he was up by so big a margin is PURE corruption! Thank god Kelly stopped him, or else Jermain was on his way to getting yet ANOTHER gift.
Hey fuck nut, you ever considered you might be wrong? I had Taylor ahead 58-55 - big deal i don't need a commentator to help me score a fight. Also you say Taylor by your scoring only won the round he got the knock down in??? think you need to look at how you score.
Scoring is always dubious and open your own opinions and as they saying goes "opinions are like assholes everyone has one"
So is having him ahead, you tool. Just admit it, your brain is of a modest size at best and you allowed yourself to be swayed by Darke and McCrory and their superficial, simplistic view of the fight. You essentially echoed their sentiments. I can see Taylor winning round 6, it was close, but rounds 1, 3, 4 and 5 were Pavlik's for sure.
I didn't score it but I though it was close. After Pavlik got knocked down it took him a while to get his shit together. So it wasn't like he got up and got to work on Taylor. So he definately lost more than the 2nd round. Taylor always close rounds. Rounds that could go to either the busier guy or the guy who land more powerful shots.
