Ibeabuchi vs The Klitschkos

Who mcwins?

 

Ibeabuchi KO4 Wlad

Ibeabuchi UD12 Vitali

not because I'm overrating Ibeabuchi, but because Wlad and Vitali both suck ass

 

Wlad KO 8 Ike
Vitali UD Ike

not because I'm underrating Ibeabuchi, but because Wlad and Vitali are all-time greats

 

@the idea of Wlad KO'ing Ibeabuchi

Wlad was hanging on for dear life & couldn't put away a drastically inferior fighter in Sam Peter

 

Actually, prime Wlad blasted Peter out cold after beating him up mercilessly. Ike wold be more aggressive than Peter, which means he would get chopped down faster

 

Yeah, that was a prime Wlad, but a greatly diminished Peter. Who wasn't very good to begin with. Wlad would have his Hugo Boss track shoes on for this fight.

 

I would probably switch around Ugo's results. I can see Wlad jabbing Ike all night and coasting to a decision. But I'd pick Vitali to stop Ibeabuchi.

 

Agreed with Jake here, Klitschkos win for me

 

Klitschkos win easy here.

Cautious, but effective decision wins.

 

I liked Ibeabuchi's style a lot. I liked his dimensions a lot. The thing is that he really only had two significant wins his entire career. He decisioned Tua in a close fight and he really did impress with the KO of Byrd. Unfortunately, thats all we have to go on. A guy with no power and a guy with all his power in his left hand. I think that it was only a matter of time before Ikes personal issues began to surface in the ring itself. We don't know how he would have responded to guys that big who could tag him before he got into range. Did he really hit any harder than Lennox Lewis or Brewster or Danny Williams or the like?

As is often the case, guys with a couple of nice wins under their belt, who then die or go to jail, are described as having their "illustrious careers" cut short.

If Fernando Vargas had gone to jail for assault and never faced Tito, people would be telling us that Fernando could have dee-stroyed Trinidad. Same with Tony Ayala. Tony Ayala kills to death Hagler, Leonard, Hearns and Duran.

I can see Ibeabuchi KO Wlad but he gets NO change out of Vitali.

 

:bears:

 

chris byrd favored ibeabuchi

 

I think Vitali beats him, really hammering him late, possibly stopping him

but I think Ibebuchi could knock out Wlad, frankly

 

I see where you are going here, but you are exaggerating here. These days, I haven't seen boxing fans saying Ayala beats any/all of these fighters. At least not with a straight face. I remember around that time some were picking him against Duran, but this was prior to Duran taking on Moore and Hagler and when folks thought he was done at the championship level.

 

His father was the main pusher of that nonsense. Duran was a guy they definitely thought they could beat, and they disparaged Duran for losing to Kirkland Laing.

 

Ike is the most overrated HW ever.

Klits lick him.

 

:atu:

Not a big Ike guy, however. There's little question he would have knocked Wlad out, but I like Vitali to beat him convincingly.

 

Peter hadn't been an effective fighter in a few years at that point, though.

 

That fat loser was never an effective fighter.

 

Fair. Still, even by his standard, he was well past it by the Wlad rematch.

 

Difficult to tell to be honest. Did his performances really deteriorate or did the Vitali doing just take his aura of hype away? I mean he beat NOBODY before fighting Wlad the first time, he was just known as a puncher because he landed a hail mary against Jeremy Williams or something

I think Wlad has genuinely improved and I think Peter was always basically fat and shite.

 

Before we go on and on about how Ibeabuchi was unproven.. is there anyone on Wlad or Vitali's resume that compares to a prime Byrd or Tua? Does anyone honestly believe there's any opposition of either fighter that Ibeabuchi couldn't beat?

 

Before we go on about Ike being unproven lets engage in a speculative thought experiment as if that proves something?

 

You can't seriously have missed the point I was making.. ?

Let me spell it out for you:

- People are claiming that Vitali and Wlad would beat Ike because Ike is "unproven"

- These people are forgetting the fact that Vitali and Wlad are in fact less proven than Ike against elite competition.

On the one hand we have Vitali, who seems to find all his opponents at nursing homes that have all-you-can-eat buffets as a resident perk. His best "win" is a loss.

On the other, we have Wlad, who's been KTFO by journeymen and whose resume is a who's who of "who?" Wlad's best win is decisioning Chris Byrd.. a year after Ibeabuchi knocked him out.

But Ibeabuchi is unproven? Come on. You want to talk about fighting Lennox Lewis? Lennox Lewis from the Rahman rematch destroys both of these bums on the same night.