If Cain wants to be the greatest...

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  1. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He's gotta beat fighters like this.

    W Kurt Angle
    W Batista
    W Herschel Walker
    W Butterbean
    W Glover Texiera
    W Mark Hunt
    W Badr Hari
    W Rich Franklin
    W Cro Cop
    W Chael Sonnen
    W Pedro Rizzo
    W Mighty Mo


    Now that's a resume.

    Fuck all of that UFC hype shit!

    :hammert:
     
  2. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Surely I'm not the only one who wants to see these fights?

    He'd be the God of MMA if he spent the next decade beating these guys.

    Especially since he's quite and respectful.

    Cain is God!
     
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    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    let's see BOSS top this thread.
     
  4. His_Royness

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    :lol:


    yeah kid is so bad, i ain't even getting the agenda here...
     
  5. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Laughter? You calling this mythical resume a joke? WTF? Who are you to say a guy can't be the greatest with a resume full of pro wrestlers looking for a quick buck, tomato cans, part time kickboxers, washed up has been, one dimensional perennial losers, and guys one, sometimes two weight classes smaller than him? :nono:

    What about this one?


    W Naoya Ogawa
    W Yuji Nagata
    W Yanagisawa Ryushi
    W Zuluzihno
    W Lee Hasdell
    W Mark Hunt
    W Semmy Schilt
    W Renato Sobral
    W Mark Coleman
    W Matt Lindland
    W Randleman
    W Hong Man Choi
    :dunno:
     
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  6. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I see what you did there and I like it. :lol:
     
  7. BOSS

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    You could have saved yourself a lot of typing and just typed "I don't like Fedor"
     
  8. Bob N Weave

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    Lol. Amen.
     
  9. Newbraski

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    Are you seriously discrediting Fedors career? He's one of the guys who's accomplishment speaks for itself.

    Btw..Fedor was almost ALWAYS the smaller man in his fights.

    And.....
    It works both ways.
    Half the opponents on your boy Cains ledger are less than desirable.
     
  10. Bob N Weave

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    Don't waste your time on this kid, seriously. He has a hard on for Fedor and discredits him whenever possible. He must have schooled one of his favorite fighters.

    If you want to shut him up, just ask Jim who the GOAT is. You won't hear from him for a while.
     
  11. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Except when he was fighting Arona, Babalu, Coleman, Randleman, Lindland, Arona and Cro Cop, but okay then.

    He also beat some real superstars who just happened to be giants, like Zuluzihno and Hong Man Choi?

    Half? I didn't list the cans from Fedor's first fights, I'm talking about the opponents on his great streak of his, post Kosahka. :lol: at your nuthuggery, comparing a guy in his prime handoicking guys like Gary Goodrige, to a 3-0 fighter fighting Jake O Brien.
     
  12. Newbraski

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    Nuthuggery? He's not even in my top 3 favs, but I can appreciate what he has done. You obviously have some blind hate for the guy. Kinda wierd actually.

    Do you actually watch the sport? Every fighter fights some bigger fighters and some smaller fighters. You do know that Fedor is a small heavy himself, right??

    Of your list only 2 Fedor was bigger than. Crocop, Coleman, Randleman, and Babalu were all Heavies. So 2 out of over 30 where he was bigger than his opponent. Wow, what a slacker.
     
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    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

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    Only an idiot would talk about a streak "post-Kohsaka". That elbow cut was a fluke.
     
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    REED:hammert:
     
  15. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Babalu and Randleman are natural LHW.

    Cro Cop and Coleman were about the same, but Coleman makes 205 easy too.


    So FAIL.

    And it's not that people don't take easy fights, it's that outside of two or three fighters, Fedor's entire streak is easy ass fights.

    Goodridge? Hunt? Ogowa? Choi? Schilt? Zulu? Lindland? Bum Rogers? Hasdell, the list goes on an on of guys that shouldn't be in the cage with ANY top 10 fighter.

    What a joke.


    Just like this resume I posted for Cain, everyone was getting ready to laugh until I spun back to the Fraud, now all of a sudden it's okay. :atu:
     
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    Bullshit, Babalu and Randleman cut to 205. Crocop and Coleman were both Fedors size.

    The more you try to discredit his record the stupider you look.

    BTW..Like Bob says? Do you not consider Fedor the GOAT?
     
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  17. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Anderson Silva
     
  18. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Notice how he left Nog off the list twice and Arona.

    I'm not getting into the resume discussion because it's pointless with TLC. But it is kind of amazing how many future or former UFC Champions Fedor beat. You would figure he would have slipped up against at least one of them.
     
  19. Bob N Weave

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    Lol gimme a break. Anderson is a great champion, but his resume isn't half as good as Fedors. Anderson has some really bad losses man, also some pretty poor performances. Any you bring up fighting smaller guys? Anderson is always the bigger man.
     
  20. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Because Nog is his only good win? :atu:

    Arona also tooled Fedor and got jobbed.

    Any champions pre Tim Sylvia doesn't mean shit anyway. All those clowns fucking sucked.

    Fedor's legacy is dominating the weakest division in the sport until it got good, and by good, I still mean the weakest division in the sport, but with some fighters who are actually elite.
     
  21. Bob N Weave

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    Only good win? You are a joke man.
    The fact that you say the HW division was a joke prior to Sylvia means you know nothing about Pride anyways.

    And you have to be an even bigger joke to think that the MW was/is better than HW.

    Jesus I'm done wasting my time with you, your bias completely blinds you. You obviously have nograsp on the sport, because if you did, you would have a little more respect for what these people do.

    I'm not going to waste any more energy on this child.
     
  22. Newbraski

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    Who the hell is this guy? I mean seriously?? Back when Fedor was raping faces in Pride the Pride HW division was great.

    How irornc is it that this guy says the HW division is/was a joke, but then praises Silva for what he has done in the MW division?

    BTW if you consider Nog Fedors only good win "which he did multiple times BTW" Then you also must consider Franklin "lol" Silvas only good win. Lets be fair.
     
  23. Trplsec

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    Everyone knows I rank Franklin very highly. That being said, beating Nog twice is a far, far better accomplishment than beating Franklin twice.

    There is absolutely zero comparison between the all time resumes and greatness of Silva and Fedor. But what's even more important, is I have yet to see Fedor get absolutely handled for 5 rounds by a one-dimensional wrestler like Silva was.

    And even further, in all this fights in Pride or wherever, Fedor has never had me throwing shit at the TV like Silva did against Cote, Maia and Leites.

    Please. TLC is delusional on yet another topic.
     
  24. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    The MW division is still leaps and bounds better than the HW division.

    PRIDE HW? :lol:

    Nog and Fedor must amount to am entire division.
     
  25. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Fedor was nearly KO'd by a journeyman wrestler in Fujiya, and was nearly subbed by a fat kickboxer. He also struggled against a tire changer.

    As far as resumes, Silva has titles at 2 weights, has beaten a former champion in his prime at a 3rd, and defended his title against the best MWs in the world a record amount of times.


    Fedor fought a ton of cans, defended his title like two or thee times over the course of 5 years or so, fights in the weakest division, and when everyone in MMA is saying how much it's improved, he's hiding like a scared little puppy dog, handpicking opponents who end up beating him.

    You are right, zero comparison.
     
  26. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    And if you put all of those "struggles" together in one fight they don't look near as shameful as being 100% handled for almost 5 entire rounds by Chael Sonnen.

    Funny, you say Fedor was almost knocked out against Fujiya, a wrestler, but forget that Fedor never hit the canvas. However, Silva was tagged and knocked down by a wrestler in Sonnen.

    I am done with this conversation because I rate Silva highly and don't want to debate his worth.
     
  27. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Fedor was WAY more rocked by Fujita than Anderson was by Sonnen. He did a pretty good Zab Judah.
     
  28. Bob N Weave

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    Yet Fedor was never knocked down in his entire career. Go figure.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Guess he wasn't rocked then.

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  30. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Owned. :lol:

    And if you saw that fight, Fedor was on queer street for a good minute after that, punch landed, and it wasnt even that clean. :lol:

    Anderson got knocked off balance, and cleared his head enough to stand toe to toe a second later.

    And I guess, being nearly KTFO by a journeyman, and submitted by a fat kickboxer is somehow lesser than being outwrestled by an Olympic Silver Medalist.

    Oh wait.

    Fedor hasn't even fought a good MMA wrestler, let alone one the quality of Sonnen.
     
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