I like this footage taken by a fan. I cannot understand why Pac did not circle AWAY from JMMs big right hand. It was like Moorer vs Foreman. He knew it was there but moved towards it regardless. Was it Pacs mistake or was JMM maneuvering him into the shot? <iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/V7pwZ4njcw0?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
As UNPREDICTABLE as Pac can Be, there's a Bit of Predictability to Him, that JM Marquez Exploited... When he's REALLY Trying to Inflict Damage (or Get Some Payback), Manny has a Tendency to Bounce Side to Side on his Toes, Feint 1nce, then Leap In w/the Left Cross...After Sharing 42 Rounds w/Him, Marquez Obviously Picked Up on This... Manny Being a Bit Overzealous + Marquez's Timing = THE Most Shocking 1 Punch KO Since Jones-Tarver II... REED:mj:
agREED. Add to this it was right at the end of the round. I think Manny really wanted to punctuate it but ended up getting face planted instead. Perhaps he doesn't walk into that same exact lights out shot in the middle of a round. Doesn't really matter though, it happened. Huge blunder by Pacquiao and perfectly timed shot by Marquez. It's crazy how many changes momentum their fights had. Every time it looked like Manny's speed, ferocity and power were too much, JMM's timing, intelligence and heart would sway it back in his favour. Then Pacman would make a slight adjustment and it he gains the advantage. No matter who was winning it was always temporary.
Another consideration is the quick release, so to speak, which JMM has on his right hand. He has a way of uncoiling it....not telegraphic it at all. Normally, even in the midst of an attack, pacquiao can pick up on return shots...not necessarily avoid them, but at least brace for it. In this case, there was evidently no indication. You wonder if this didn't contribute to Pacquiao ' s ability to out box JMM prior to the ko. Was JMM so obsessed with setting up that shot that he allowed himself to be more easily handed minute to minute? If so, the strategy certainly paid off. Of course, not even a fifth fight would tell us one way or another.
Assuming neither has declined much more rapidly than the other I agree. If Pacquiao were to blitz Marquez in fight number 5 I still wouldn't bet the house on him in a 6th matchup.
Yeah, it looks like he JUMPED into it. Both his feet come off the floor, suggesting he was sort of leaping as he was hit. Pac the enthusiastic leap professional.
Clearly, Manny WALKED INTO the Kill Shot... Props to Marquez for EXPLOITING It, but Manny's ACTION Caused Marquez's REACTION...PRIME Versions of Pac/Marquez Could Fight 4 Additional Times & there's a Good Chance Marquez NEVER Lands the Same Shot to THAT Effect, Ever Again... REED:mj:
i agree, i mean its rare a fighter lands one of the greatest punches of all time. which is what occurred.
Marquez would've catched Manny again since he seemed to have timed him but he wouldn't have KO'ed him. That one punch was perfect. He caught him hands down, in the middle of motion, and he was in a perfect position to land a crisp short punch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRVoAtUCRhs
Manny did run into it. I think at that point he was simply too cocky. It was the first time in 4 fights that he was clearly getting the better of Marquez, and pretty much dominating the fight. He was unconcerned with what Marquez was doing, only thinking about his own offense, so he simply didn't see it coming, or anticipate it. Perfect right hand though, landed so flush, extra flush because of Pacquiao's running assistance.
just happened to watch some of Hagler-Duran right before this. The standard of footwork & positioning was, erm.....slightly better.
Such a weird knock out, its like a PS2 computer game with the characters not quite lining up properly.
Technically, P stands for Performance; E stands for Enhancing; D stands for Drugs. S stands for Marquez is a cheating piece of Shit.
It was perfectly timed and well placed, plus Manny rushed in and tripped on Marquez's lead foot just as it happened.
That's kind of true. Even the way he flops to the canvas a bit too fast is videogame esque :: But yeah it is a very weird KO, it happened suddenly and strangely, the whole timing and positioning of it is just odd.
combination of both i know there are a lot of pac lovers on here who are all gay for pac but if you really really watch his fights.. he makes mistakes. Yes he is fast and has great power and great stainma but boxing skill wise he makes a lot of mistakes.. EVERY time.. and i mean 100% of the time when he throws a jab he drops his left hand (protecting chin) Marquez is an excellent counter puncher and could capitalize on his mistakes.. what is funny is floyd is 100x better than Marquez IMO.. counter punching, ring savy, timing... he will totally SCHOOL Pac if they fight.. people talk about Pacs speed.. and he is fast but different that Floyd.. Pac is fast like an amateur.. fast hands.. physical speed... floyd is fast physically but more importantly mentally.. he can see what is happening faster than others and has world class timing he will RAPE and SODOMIZE Pac if pac ever agrees to fight
