Inoue is better than Loma

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Does anybody think otherwise?

    Put it this way, if they were the same size, does anybody think that a guy who gets dropped by Linares is surving Inoue?
     
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    The thing is that Inoue does what he does because he is who he is and that's in part related to his size and build.

    Change that, one way or the other, and you change everything.

    Lomachenko could be 6-4" and 240 and that doesn't mean he is beating Joshua.
     
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    His size and build?

    Bro he's a fuckin small bantam! Jamie McDonell and Rodriguez both dwarfed him.

    He is who he is because he has a very rare blend of power, handspeed, and skill.
     
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    Yeah but how does he fare if he moves up to 135?

    That's the comparison you are making, no?
     
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    who???
     
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    Huhhh? No not at all. Inoue is wayyyyy too small to ever compete at 135. His max is probably 122.

    I'm saying in a P4P sense if he and Loma were the same natural size, I'd favor Inoue.

    But they arent the same natural size. Loma is much bigger.
     
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    Inoue started at 108
     
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    Yeah but what I am saying is that it's impossible to every really gauge those kind of things.

    If we shrank Loma down to 122 he might suddenly look like that too.

    It's basically impossible to ever know.
     
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    Lil Jap Nothingweight that Xplosive snd MWS love hyping.
     
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    Let’s see how well Donair handles Inoue’s power. As far as I can tell Inoue hasn’t faced anyone on Donair’s level and the higher you go in class the more durable the top guys tend to be. If Inoue gets Donair out of there or shows an ability to hurt Donair on the same level as he has his other competition than I say his power does give him a good chance against Loma p4p.

    However I’d still favor Loma. X you already think Linares is shit, but regardless, he landed a great shot on Loma. I think Loma would be too defensive and wouldn’t just stand in front of Inoue like Rodriguez did and would out work Inoue the same way he does everyone else. Of course we’ll never know for sure.
     
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    Inoue is quick and very powerful.
    His combinations are devastating to bothe the head and the body..
    We won’t know just how good he is until he is tested in the mid to later rounds.
     
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    Donaire may die vs inoue
     
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    Inoue vs Donaire would have been a legitimate superfight if it was prime Donaire. I mean, could you imagine Inonue vs the Donaire that stopped Montiel? Mouth watering matchup to say the least.

    At this point, you do have to give Donaire a small chance due to his power, but he's a heavy underdog.

    I think Inoue will stop him in 5.
     
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    You have to go with Inoue in this matchup simply due to physical primes.
    Don’t sleep on Nonito though....he just can’t get it done above 118 it seems,..and not only will he have a significant length advantage over “The Monster”,..he will be BY FAR, the best and most experienced opponent Inoue has faced.
    I’m calling for the upset here and taking Donaire by late round stoppage around the 9th
     
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    Look,..when you outclass a guy and make him look stupid round after round,...it’s easy to get cocky or complacent and get caught.
    Just because Linares caught Loma with a shot and scored a flash KD doesn’t have a damn thing to do with how Loma would fight an obvious beast like Inoue
     
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    He got complacent and got caught by a great shot, square-on by an offensively skilled, bigger guy. Dude got up straight away, he was hardly out on his feet or anything. Inoue is a beast and may well win, but the Linares KD wouldn't be the reason why.
     
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    P4p match-ups are retarded since there is no way of comparing the fighters fairly.

    I won't argue if somebody places Inoue over Loma, but you should know better than to base your picks on single performances. Mind you, PBF also struggled when he changed to 135 from super-feather, much more so than Loma in fact
     
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    Floyd at 135?????

    Loma has never fought anybody as good as Castillo, and there's no guarantee that he even beats Castillo, so referencing Floyd struggling at 135 moreso than Loma is what's truly "retarded" considering the difference in opposition. Castillo was a very good fighter while Linares is a bum.
     
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    Inoue may die vs Donaire, that’s why they fight the fights.
     
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    It meant that Floyd's first fight at 135 didn't tell the whole truth about him, just like Loma's necessarily didn't.
     
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    Donaire is goin out early and brutally vs this kid

    Nery is a more interesting opponent at that division
     
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    Well Donaire did get absolutely dominated by Frampton as he can be a bit inconsistent and have one fight where he looks amazing and the next where he’ll look rather ordinary. I wonder if it’s because he keeps jumping from bantamweight to featherweight.
     
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    Yep, it's just amazing to me, one of the things that gets me about Inoue is his extremely diminutive build. McDonell fucking dwarfed him, he is like 5'10 and blew up to an absolutely absurd 140 something pounds. Yet Inoue just walked through him like he was a bum off the street.

    It's why to this day I still give Pacquiao more credit than most of you, due to how tiny he is.

    Inoue looks smaller than pretty much all the top guys at 118 and 122, but the chances are he'll destroy anyone at that weight.

    Objectively he looks less spectacular than some other lighter weight pound for pounders, but his power is almost Tyson esque. Appears to have dynamite in his gloves.

    Inoue has beaten solid guys, but I'd say he's still significantly less proven than Lomachenko, so I wouldn't feel comfortable picking him in a mythical P4P contest. However, his power and offense is good enough that he probably shouldn't be an underdog against anyone in the sport.
     
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    Inoue is fun to watch... he reminds me of a miniature Pipino Cuevas
     
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    That's a weird comparison. Inoue's a much better technician than Cuevas, and far more cerebral.

    The one thing they do have in common is that they are/were small for their weight classes, yet guys body's just fall apart when they hit them.

    Rodriguez's face told a thousand words after those body shot shots dropped him. He was thinking "What in the FUCK is this???? Get me outta here!"
     
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    I think Inoue reminds me more of a young Gomez than Cuevas. Both tiny men with great skill and wrecking ball power for the weight. And both ruthless finishers when they get their opponents in trouble.
     
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    His offensive style is quite similar, especially his punching technique, particularly the hook

    He holds his hands in a similar manner and cuts off the ring and walks guys down...
     
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    Gomez? His punching technique is totally different! How can you call Cuevas a weird comparison and then come out with Gomez?
     
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    Never said the technique was the same. And to be honest, Gomez was a more fluid boxer with better footwork.

    But both supremely talented puncher-boxers with rare power for the below 126 weights.
     
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    Some nice fighters coming through at the moment.
     
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