Is Euro fighters are good a myth (outside of the Klitschkos)?

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  1. ElTerriblee

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    Kessler gets dominated by Ward.

    Abraham gets dominated by Dirrell.

    Henry stops Garay in a round, who build a reputation is a decent fighter based on performances against European fighters like Erdei and Brähmer. Not that I rated Brähmer.
     
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    I never really rated Abraham, I said all along it would be Dirrell by UD and it fucking would have been if it wasn't for that smurf cunt.
     
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    I think they're regular boxers with strengths and weaknesses who will win some, and lose some. This generalisation shit is better suited to American scribes.
     
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    I've always thought Arabham is one of the most overrated fighters in the sport. I thought he lost to Eastman.

    Kessler too, good fighter, but slightly overrated. So no, it's just AA and Kessler that were overrated.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Some fighters are overrated in Europe, some in America. Big difference.

    And most of all, styles is what matters. It was obvious Dirrell was going to be a difficult style matchup for Arthur
     
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    The sisters are shit also. They're just fortunate to be around in the weakest era in heavyweight history.
     
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    Kessler is my boy, but I admit many(myself included) overrated him.

    Not AA though, cause all of us already knew the guy was one dimensional, and flawed with his lack of workrate.

    I wasnt shocked at all that Dirrell schooled him. What will shock me is if Froch manages to beat him.
     
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    You ALMOST stated what you really mean,..^ above,.. now your back trying to cover it up with a blanket,.. by anyone who values the truth, it's more worthy of respect if you reveal your REAL frame of mind,.. you dont realise how much you expose yourself, so why bother fighting it?.. You aint the only one with similar inhibitions on this messageboard,.. black, white, Hispanic or Asian,..from what I can detect, there's a representative for each.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Past fighters are fortunate not to be around with Klitschkos.

    It is funny how boxing is still so much about nationalities
     
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    Race aswell.
     
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    Abraham is one of the best 168 lbs today. The super six will give us some interesting match-ups. Remember, styles makes fights. Don't bash AA like he was never any good. He's still a very good boxer. It's just one loss.
     
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    I don't know. There were career journeymen, semi-retired pudgy fighters and fighters with good chins but very limited skills in the past so Wlad would still be in danger of losing to them.
     
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    Dirrell loses to Froch, Taylor loses to Froch, Abraham, Calzaghe retires 45-0....
     
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    Abraham is tough and powerful and knows how to go the distance, but is one dimensional and if you know how to use the ring and do not stand in front of him then you can get the better of him!
    Dirrell's game plan for this fight worked a treat and deserved the win! Abraham became too frustrated in this fight!
     
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    I agree with you're post entirely (even the prediction), except for the bit i've highlighted in bold...it should be a D
     
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    Could be a two wayer Adam-ant,.. disgust at the bitter pampered Arabian Kraut for popping his opponent on the floor,.. and disgust for the extremes Dirrell went to, to get out of another round and a half. Hard to argue with either avenues.
     
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    Apart from the Klitschkos, Carl Froch, Ricky soon to be retired Hatton, Felix Sturm and David Haye), there are no other European fighters in the top 25 of the P4P rankings which is quite a phenomenal statistic!

    Amir Khan is the next great to come out of Europe and best of all he's British!!!
     
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    So apart from the 5 guys who make up one fifth of the worlds top fighters, there is nobody else?
     
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    Of course there are plenty of top European pro boxers out there! The majority of boxers in the P4P rankings are American and that the U.S.A is producing a greater percentage of talent than Europe today.

    As a Brit tho, I am excited about the future of British boxing with the talent we are producing and you will see more British fighters rising up the rankings!
     
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    I am too shifty for your crude white rushing style.........:kick:
     
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    First of all, Ricky Hatton and Felix Sturm are not p4p top 25...

    But then u gotta go by weight classes and the stats become quite less phenomenal.

    Heavyweight: 5 out of top 5 Euros...
    Cruiser: 1 american or 2 if u count Jones whereever he is from - 1 Euro - 4 more Euros in the top 10 no other american...
    LHW: 3 americans - 2 Euros
    SMW: 3 Euros - 2 Americans and a Euro-Canadian in the mix
    Middle: 3 Americans - 2 Euros - 3 more Euros right behind...


    From there u have 0 or 1 more Euro per Weightclass, since these weights have never been big to Europeans because we just don't grow that dwarfy small... That's just a fact...

    Then in the midget divisions u have a shitload of mexicans and asians, a lot of them p4p who take a big portion outta that pie.

    America is still the bigger draw boxing-wise but Europeans are mostly right there when it counts...
     
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    1 Manny Pacquiao Welterweight
    2 Floyd Mayweather Jr Welterweight
    3 Shane Mosley Welterweight
    4 Bernard Hopkins Light heavyweight
    5 Juan Manuel Márquez Lightweight
    6 Nonito Donaire Junior Bantamweight
    7 Miguel Ã￾ngel Cotto Welterweight
    8 Chad Dawson Light heavyweight
    9 Paul Williams Middleweight
    10 Celestino Caballero Junior featherweight

    5 Americans in top 10 Ring Magazine p4p rankings, 2 Filipino, 1 Mexican, 1 Puerta Rican and 1 Panama.

    Is this correct?
     
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    How is Paul Williams in there?
     
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    Sure so is mine... :dunno:
     

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