James Toney vs Danny Batchelder

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  1. Roll With The Punches

    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    this fight seems to have gone right under the radar

    anyone see it? how did Toney look?

    he only got a split decision over this guy :dunno:
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  2. Orthodox Crusader

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    Didn't see it....when was it???
     
  3. Erratic

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    Terrible, terrible fight.

    One of the worst fights I have ever seen.

    Toney looked extremely bad. I'm not sure if he was being lazy as he often is, or he's just old and can't pull the trigger. Maybe both. He wasn't accurate when he did throw either, other than a consistent jab that sometimes found it's mark.

    He might've gotten a little lucky with the cards, but I didn't bother to score it as it was a dreadful fight.
     
  4. whiskey

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    There hasn't been any interest in the fight for mainly two reasons.

    1) Who's Danny Batchelder?
    2) James is done an elite leve/ fighter
     
  5. *Z*

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    How did you see the fight?
     
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    I went to the fight.
     
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    I was thinking about going but decided not to. You from San Jose? I live in Santa Cruz.
     
  8. Orthodox Crusader

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    Where was it? At the Pechanga Resort?

    James is fucking FINISHED.

    For all his so-called D he took a lot of leather against Rahman and Peter and his thus wasted.
     
  9. Erratic

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    I live in San Francisco. The whole card was awful, but most cards at the Tank shouldn't be this bad, so I'll probably check out another one in the future.

    The HP Pavilion in San Jose.
     
  10. Jake

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    Damn, why did I always think you were from Chicago?

    anyway, yeah, most seemed to have it the same as you. sounds like the toney of the late '90's all over again.

    Damn, I remember 10 years ago when he fought Greg Everett on ESPN thinking, "how the hell could he let himself go this bad?" and he was "only" 205 then. Now we're longing for the days to where he can get under 220.
     
  11. Orthodox Crusader

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    I've seen James listed as being anywhere between 5'9 and 6'0...what height is he???
     
  12. Hanzy

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    He's 5'9. Nowhere near 6'
     
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    I am a longtime Toney fan. It drives me nuts to see him like this. After the Peter fight, I thought if he is going to be serious about boxing, he should get his ass back in shape, and go dominate the Cruisers. I think James could have brought new life to that division at one time, especially after the Jirov fight. But those are just days gone by now. I think its closing time for Lights Out.:lol:
     
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    Santa Cruz!!?? You Hippie!! :lol: :lol: I love Santa Cruz. I take my kids to Felton for the Big Basin train ride at least once a year and we visit friends out there.
     
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    I thought the hippies lived in Santa Barbara?:dunno:
     
  16. mikE

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    IIRC, Toney was always listed at 5'10" back in his SM days.

    Which doesn't mean I'm disagreeing with you because I haven't seen him in person and it's not like Tales of the Tape are consistent or necessarily accurate in the first place.
     
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    Haha! I hate hippies! Damn smelly bastards. I love it here, you have the ocean and the mountains both within a 20 minute drive.
     
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    No they all live in San Francisco with Alabama Man.
     
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    i'd say he's closer to 5'9. he's a little shorter than me, and I'm on the shy side of 5'10"
     
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    Originally Posted by *Z*
    How did you see the fight?

    :lol:
     
  22. *Z*

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    I was just surprised someone from the board lived close enough to go to it. I didn't think anyone from here lived that close.
     
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    ^^^ at one point, FightBeat had four staff members who lived in or near the area.
     
  24. *Z*

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    Really? Who were they? I had no idea there were other here near me. Now in case I have to go open a can of whoop ass on someone I can... :lol:
     
  25. CleanYourClock

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    Toney is finished ...

    He is older but most of all - all that extra fat weight and being lazy is the thing that is currently doing him in and will eventually end his career ..
    If he was still a Cruiser or a 210lb Heavyweight , we would see slippage do to age but not nearly the slippage we are seeing now in his current condition ...
     
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    dsimon writes:

    yeah bamma has a commune on Baker street and they serve koolade when Latin King comes over for a visit.:lol:
     
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    Z there are a whole bunch of us in San FRancisco and the bay area. When I open my restaurant in North Beach I will PM all you guys but please chech by TAA once in a while.
     
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    I was at this fight as well and it was pretty bad. Toney's gotten used to fighting these bigger and slower heavyweights, Batchelder actually made him come forward in the fight and Toney's not really made for that kind of fight at this point.

    I didn't score the fight, but I agree with the sentiment he might have been fortunate to win.

    However, it wasn't because of his weight. He came in at 229, and looked resonably good for how he's looked in recent fights.

    He's simply nearing the end of his career, and his weight is - in some part - just window dressing. Obviously it helps the lighter he is, but even if he somehow got below 220 the fighter that knocked out Holyfield isn't going to appear.
     

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