Klitschko brothers line up autumn bouts to leave David Haye frustrated • Wladimir Klitschko announces rematch with Samuel Peter • Haye's hopes of fighting one of the brothers in 2010 over guardian.co.uk, Friday 30 July 2010 16.05 BST Article history Wladimir Klitschko, right, during his successful IBF title fight against Nigeria's Samuel Peter in 2005. Photograph: Tom Mihalek/EPA David Haye's hopes of facing one of the Klitschko brothers before the end of the year are effectively over after the Ukrainian heavyweight champions lined up alternative opponents. After the former world champion Shannon Briggs claimed yesterday he will take on the WBC belt-holder, Vitali, in October, the Klitschkos revealed today that the IBF and WBO champion, Wladimir, will meet Samuel Peter in a rematch. Last year, Haye's negotiations over a fight with Vitali fell through and a back injury forced him out of a challenge to Wladimir. Instead, he managed to wrest the WBA title from Nikolay Valuev before setting his sights on a blockbuster showdown with one of the brothers in 2010. Talks have again proved fruitless, however, with the Englishman and his manager-trainer, Adam Booth, unable to reach an agreement with the notoriously shrewd Klitschko camp, with one major sticking point believed to be television rights in the siblings' adopted homeland of Germany. The developments this week leave Haye searching for a viable opponent for the second defence of his WBA title. In April he defeated the American John Ruiz in an eye-catching mandatory fight but there are few lucrative options aside from the Klitschkos. The Press Association understands Haye's fellow Londoner Audley Harrison has not been discounted, following his European title win earlier this year, while the Polish former cruiserweight champion Tomasz Adamek would represent a credible – though less financially lucrative – alternative. Wladimir will face Peter in Frankfurt, Germany on 11 September after a clash with Alexander Povetkin fell through. The Nigerian, formerly the WBC champion and ranked at two by the IBF, knocked Klitschko down three times before losing a unanimous decision in their 2005 fight. "Peter was one of the toughest fights of my career, he is an extremely hard puncher and has improved a lot in his last fights," said the 34-year-old. "I know what to expect on 11 September and I will be well prepared." "I've waited a long time for a chance to fight him again," said Peter. "I will knock Klitschko out and put his belts in my suitcase." ------------------------------------------------------------ Brits,... you have media... that are absolutely no better than the Americans I see.
The Guardian. :: What it should say is that "Klitschkos Get On With Their Lives While David Fiddles" Both of their upcoming opponents have more credit than the bozo Haye is supposedly fighting, namely Audley.
I'm so fucken sick of journalists personal agenda,.. coming up to an election in this country, I've been going psychotically 'Irish-mad' at the blatant propaganda,.. I think it must be personally empowering, a snickering little evil indulgence,.. at the end of the day you find yourself down a rabbit hole with a gun,.. and shoot anything that approaches the entrance.
Haye hasn't even signed to fight Audley. So if he does sign, then it's two months or 6 weeks before the fight takes place even. It's obvious: he wants Vitali to get old and Wladimir to get beaten. Then he will proclaim the division to be at it's strongest, sign to fight Mike Grant, and lose.
Are they keeping him frustrated, or keeping him relieved? Haye doesn't want either fight, IMO. I initially felt he was justified in knocking back some of the original contract sticking points on behalf of the Klitschkos, which did in fact seem unreasonable. However, those were amended, concessions were made on behalf of the brothers, &...nothing. He talks a good game, I'll give him that. Really, he is no better than Mayweather, in terms of his conduct skirting around his most pressing rival.
Wladimir is a bitch....He got KO'ed by Brewster waited a few years till getting his revenge. Now with Samuel Peter the same shit....Wlad won the first fight but got a little scared in the last few rounds. And didn't rematch Peter until now....5 years later... Haye is a clown...
I don't think Klitschko, "waited" a few years in this sinister tone you appear to be using to represent him...he hasn't struck me as some opportune predator, awaiting the deterioration of his foes until such time he is confident of retribution. He's been legitimately busy in the division during these spells. I am critical of Klitschko sometimes --- I don't think he is that good (neither he nor his brother ever had the potential to be truly great fighters), & I think he'd be shown up at some point in a deeper talent pool, but he has sought out most of the challenges on offer throughout his career, Peter & Brewster included.
Well, in the last round, it was Klitschko's left that was making Peter dance. But perhaps there are those in the boxing world who've been waiting all this time to see if twinkle toes still has it.
I do wonder how much Peter has left, most fighters are rarely improved by an 8 round hiding from Vitali, and he shipped a lot of leather from Wlad and from Chambers too. I liked him vs Aguilera, but Aguilera was basically a small puncher who got beaten up by a bigger puncher. I don't know how Sam will respond to that jab again.
But how can you be sure? I mean have you been punched in the face a bunch of times? Have you blubbered like a fool over a fringe contender in fornt of everyone? certainly, you lack THAT kind of expertise :)
You'd have been the first to cry ...KNOCKED DOWN 3 TIMES!!!!!.. back in the day,.. so congratulations for hyping it up... ,.. Wlad will probably do the same thing,..
I don't know if it's about having anything left, I mean, he clearly lost to Klitschko on points, I thought he lost the first Toney fight and even Jameel McCline yo-yo'd him for a bit (until Small Time remembered who he was)...so the thing for me is more about how much was really there to begin with. You don't have to be Lennox Lewis to crack Jeremy Williams' jaw. At least Peter comes into the ring below 240 these days...that's a plus.
Make no mistake about, if you cannot keep Sam Peter off you, you are in a world of trouble. He is a phenomenally strong guy. Toney and Chambers used skills and the Klitschko's used size, timing and their jabs, but guys like Maskaev, Aguilera, Williams...guys he can walk down and trade with, he basically bludgeons them to death. He is a legitimate danger man, if you cannot diffuse him.
You don't even need to hype it up,.. American media,.. ESPECIALLY after Peter beat Toney in the rematch,.. screamed 'Knocked down 3 times!!!!' reminiscing about Wlad, over and over and over again to the extent that this can now be marketed as a fight of 'revenge' or 'redemption'. Ironic.
Well....we cannot infuse the argument with instances of his indiscipline outside the ring. For me, he is a legitimately dangerous guy with fight-ending power in either mitt, when he is on-song and in-shape. I mean, I would rate him higher than David Tua myself, and is remarkably similar to Tua in many regards, except he is two-fisted. Both men had/have weight issues, slightly overrated chins and very very good power and strength, and suffer versus jabbers and movers.
I disagree, his conditioning isn't merely a side issue with like Peter, because he needs to be in some kind of shape in order to apply pressure - which he did do in the fight against Wladimir - otherwise, he's much more stationary and easier to hit and defend against. He has power, but he also has very poor accuracy and technique, which is why he did a lot of his best work to the back of Klitschko's head, something aided by Wladimir, because those opportunities usually came after attempted Klitschko-clinches. The left hook he landed at the end of round three was preceding by a punch to the back of the head...after the left landed, Klitschko falls in and Peter throws another one behind the head. The first knockdown in round 5, Klitschko goes in to clinch, Peter throws a right to the back of the head, pushes him off and throws a left hook, Klitscho again tries to grab, and Peter throws a sweeping right to the back of the head. The second knockdown in round 5, Klitschko was tired and flailing, falls into Peter's left arm, who then throws a right to the back of the head as Klitschko's going down.
