Lennox Lewis-VERY under-rated chin?

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  1. Pascals Wager

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    Not as bad as people say but certainly not granite.

    Lewis had a serviceable chin, nothing more nothing less. He has proven he can take a big shot but not to the extent of say Tyson or Holyfield.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    It was a good chin. The Rahman shot was one of the heaviest blows ever landed in a heavyweight championship fight, he couldn't have landed a harder blow if he was given a free run up. No disgrace being laid out by that.

    I'd give Lewis' chin a B rating.
     
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    Remember, the punches that dropped Lewis were absolute bombs that on each occasion, were thrown with total abandon: eyes shut and throw the kitchen-sink into it.

    With regards to Rd1 vs Briggs:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_ze3BHU134

    It hardly looks like Briggs connected...so I dunno WTF that was all about. (Briggs had good power, regardless)
    Lewis also took flush shots later in that fight without flinching.
     
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    He had a strange chin.

    Ultimately you simply can't say he had a good chin, because the only 2 times he was ever knocked down, he was finished.

    Part of showing the heart of a champion is being knocked down, getting hurt, and coming back to win. Lewis never prived he could do that, once he got clocked, he was done.

    It's true he DID take some big shots, and take them fine, but obviously if you caught him just right he got KO'd clean, with just 1 punch.

    I'd rate his chin as a C.

    Mayweather for example, as much as I hate him, has an A chin.

    One thing you have to consider, is Lewis was taking shots from punchers, but smaller men than him. Lewis is a BIG, solid heavyweight.

    Mayweather has fought Chico, Castillo, and even De La Hoya as high as 154 pounds, and he's never been seriously hurt, let alone KO'd with one punch :lol:

    That's what you call a good chin, not Lewis'.
     
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    Not sure about that. When people talk about his two knockout losses on single punches, they tend to overlook what kind of shots they were: Lewis leaned in for McCall's haymaker and rahman's right cross caught him to the tip of his chin. I am not sure if Holyfield could have taken those

    Weird thing though: Lewis seemed to be most vulnerable high on his head. He had no problem dealing with Tyson's, Tua's or Mercer's best shots and they all caught him often on the face. However Akinwande's right high on his head and Brigg's rabbit punches made him dip his knees
     
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    I think it was the series of rabbit punches that actually hurt him. He just lost his balance at first
     
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    Well it depends how you want to look at it. They could have scored a KD against him against Briggs and Akinwande (he appeared to touch the canvas both times) and came back to win. He also clearly wanted to come back against McCall
     
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    Like fuck it was :lol:

    That#s what most of rahman's right hands looked like, the same technique and angle etc.

    It just caught him good, right on the jaw, and lewis obviously wasn't prepared for it.
     
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    Lemmon had a pretty good chin.. although it was cracked a couple times and I do think that over all he is the most overrated fighter of all time.. his chin was decent
     
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    IMO yes he was overrated, I was never a fan of Lewis and the fact the never fought Vitali again put the final nail in his coffin as far as I was concerned.
     
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    Thats true. Rahman couldn't have landed a harder punch if he had a 10 metre run up.
     
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    Had he continued his career fighting others, then you'd have a case
     
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    I never said the guy was an idiot...
     
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    Wow...so the fact that a 38-39yr. old fighter simply decides to call it quits after a WIN, puts the nail in the coffin for you? :doh:
     
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    It makes sense that a decision outside the ring affects your opinion of a fighter inside it.
     
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    Lemmon quit like a bitch after having a tough fight with the robot
     
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    Do you think he should have fought on and gained the respect Tyson, Holyfield and Bowe did fighting in their near-forties?
     
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    no.. honestly.. he should have quit when he did. Although IMO even though I hate him.. he could have whupped Vitalie.. I think he should have Re'd him THEN called it quits..
     
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    Mayweather wasn't getting hit flush by them either :doh: Lewis was KO from tee off shots by HEAVYWEIGHTS :laughing: Actually, your ridiculous observation explains alot from the past :lol:

    Grade A chin? Good GAWD :notallthere:
     
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    :doh:

    There was nothing simple about the situation.
     
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    Good point.
    A lot of folks totally forget how bad those guys were after they hit their mid-30s.
     
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    Mayweather's defense is superb, but he got hit flush by Corrales, De La Hoya and Hatton, at least a couple of times, and he took the punches fine.

    If you think Gayweather has anything LESS than a grade A chin you're a fucking fool.

    He's fought some of the best fighters in a multitude of weight classes for years, never been knocked down let alone KO'd, yet he has what, a grade C chin? :lol:

    And lewis was getting hit by heavyweights? That's because he IS a fucking heavyweight you retard, but he was getting hit by SMALLER men, him being a large heavyweight.

    In direct comparison, of course lewis has a better chin than Floyd, he's a heavyweight and floyd is a welterweight, but for their weight class, Floyd's is clearly much better. That's not even debatable.
     
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    :lol: :laughing:
     
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    :lol: I wouldn't go as far as saying it was one of the heaviest ever....but it WAS a perfect shot.

    Rahman stepped FULLY into that shot, winged it overhand and threw it with absolute abandon.

    Lewis thought he blocked it....and he didn't and it caught him perpendicular to the chin, which is about as bad as it gets.

    Peace.
     
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    I don't get it though. The man has earned the right to call it a day. It's not like he went and fought someone else. And, for the record, he did BEAT Klitschko.

    Now if Vitali went on to have some great career, then I guess you could make a case that Lennox should've rematched him. But the guy fought Blubber Johnson, Blubber Williams and Blubber Sanders. Then ducked Blubber Rahman about 18 times before retiring himself.
     
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    You can stick blubber in front of all those fat messes. That was Vitali's point.
     
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    The problem with all this is, before the second Tarver fight Roy Jones definitely had grade A chin as well. He was down once (pretty much slipped there) and even faced a heavyweight. Then when his reflexes gave out, also his chin got proven not as stellar.

    Also you can't directly compare chins p4p (which is overlooked in those stupid p4p fights). That is because one punch KOs are more frequent in heavyweight, so in that sense they always have worse chins than small guys. All midgets have great chins comparatively
     

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