LOWEST Weight Class YOU Allow, for "The BEST Fighter in the World, Lb for Lb" ???...

Guillermo Rigondeaux has REED Pondering if a Fighter in that Weight Range has EVER Garnered the BULK of Recognition &/or Acknowledgement as Being "THE BEST Fighter in the World, Lb for Lb", for a Stretch of Time???...

REED Can Recall SOME Placing Ricardo Lopez on that Level, but that Movement NEVER Garnered any LEGITIMATE Momentum...

Anybody Else REED's Forgetting???...

Is there a Particular Weight where YOU STOP Giving Guys Lb for Lb Consideration???...





REED:mj:

 

Too Sharp was so good that he was definitely amongst the best fighters in the world in his prime.

Rigo is probably the lowest weight that has had a strong case for P4P number 1 in awhile.

Floyd was the best fighter in the world until recently. Prior to Floyd, Roy was the best fighter in the world for years. Prior to Roy, it was Whitaker. Prior to Whitaker, it was Chavez and Tyson. Prior to them, Hagler had the claim. Prior to Hagler, Leonard was the best in the early 80's. In the last 70's, Duran was the P4P.

The title has almost always gone to fighters ranging from 135-175.

I think Tyson is the only heavyweight in the last 30 years who was ever considered the P4P.

But a guy at 122 has never had such a strong claim at the top of the list since Wilfredo Gomez.

 

agREED...

QUALITY Post...





REED:cheer:

 

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105 lbs

 

Doesn't matter to me... If the guy has the comp and the quality of result against that comp and he weighs 105 or 265, he'll have a shot at that designation

 

The only weight I exclude from p4p discussion is heavyweight

 

*Removes Arreola from my top 10*

 

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If someone was 105 I'd pee in their mouth

 

I'll go all the way down to Straweight if the numbers are there to make it worthwhile.

Barring that, I would say bantamweight. Its a confluence of smallness, history and numbers of fighters.

A bantamweight should be capable of pfp greatness.

 

As selected by The Ring magazine in the May 2001 issue.
[TABLE]
<tbody>[TR]
[TH]<center>Pound For Pound</center>[/TH]
[TH]<center>Heavyweights</center>[/TH]
[TH]<center>Cruiserweight</center>[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

1. Shane Mosley
2. Felix Trinidad
3. Roy Jones Jr.
4. Oscar De La Hoya
5. Diego Corrales
6. Naseem Hamed
7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
8. Lennox Lewis
9. Erik Morales
10. Bernard Hopkins

[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

I think this was Hamed's peak for annual ratings. Too Slap reached 5. Not sure if either peaked higher in monthly Ring editions.

 

Tito above Jones, Hamed above Floyd, Lummox above Morales and Hopkins :atu: :atu:

What an atrocious list.

 

A lot of boxing publications have their P4P rankings as a "what have you done fore me lately" kind of thing.

P4P lists are already subjective but I've always thought it was the wrong way to do it. It should be a list of who you think are the best fighters in the world and nothing more.

 

What's FUNNY about That???...

It Wasn't Until Whittaker "Beat" Chavez that he Garnered UNIVERSAL Recognition as THE Best Fighter in the World, Lb for Lb...Chavez DOMINATED '30, '35 AND '40 by that Point AND was UNDEFEATED in Damn Near 100 Bouts...

Brother X's Timeline is Accurate...




REED:hammert:

 

Yep...

Similar to MVP Voting in the NBA, Boxing Writers Got BORED w/Roy Jones Being THE Best Fighter in the World, Lb for Lb, & FOOLISHLY Hoisted DeLa, Tito AND Sugar Shane to the Top Spot, PRAYING 1 of them Could MAINTAIN It...

Funny How that Worked Out for Them...





REED::

 

didnt you get the memo from mex, loaded and Anthony?? Chavez was nothing more than a plodding, "solid pro"... I know, I know... I was surprised as well

 

in that timeframe, toney >>>> chavez

(waits for clogg's head to explode)

 

Patently false quote. We said solid champion, not solid pro. Big difference between the two. Solid champion is hardly a slight.

 

It's a huge slight to one of the greatest fighters of the last 30 years

 

See that's what I mean by Chavez being overrated. That essentially puts him in the Duran/Leonard class of greatness, and I don't think he's even close.

We're talking about someone whose best win is Rosario. Rosario who got battered pretty easily in the Ramirez rematch a few years earlier.

The first time he fought a true elite fighter he came up short in a big way and got a gift draw.

A bit like with Mosley for example, hindsight tells us Chavez was never the best fighter in the world.

 

mexican shirt probably didnt know what to think when tszyu fought chavez

 

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I don't have the level of hatred for Chavez I have for the greasy little rat tail mongoloid, I just don't rate him that highly.

I have nothing against Chavez or his style. In fact I generally love classic Mexican pressure fighters. I just think he's extremely overrated.

 

I think Tszyu beats prime Chavez