Marciano Vs Patterson

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  1. Slice N Dice

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    Instead of retiring, Marciano goes for win number 50 against the Patterson who fought Moore. How does it go down?
     
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    Marciano by KO.
     
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    Patterson probably, unless AMrciano lands a hail mary
     
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    Floyd gets knocked out
     
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    Marciano will get to him eventually. Patterson was chinny
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Patterson was chinny but he usually recovered quickly. Marciano was good but both his power and chin are more myths than proven reality.

    Could go both ways, but there is a good chance that Patterson would slash his face off
     
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    Lmao @ Marciano's power being a myth! He was the most devastating 185-190 pound puncher that ever lived.

    You can't measure his power against a Foreman or Tyson considering those guys had 30-40 pounds on him.
     
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    Marciano was a bone breaker... end of story... it's absolutely hilarious the way he's reimagined on fightbeat

    There's precious few guys under 200 pounds that could hang with him
     
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    I hear you but....there is a tremendous amount of inconsistency in this regard.

    Anthony Joshua outweighs Tyson and Foreman by 30 lbs yet I don't see anyone suggesting that he hits harder than those guys.
     
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    210-220 pound punchers can KO men of any size... they're heavyweights.

    Rocky ain't a heavyweight if he fought today. Today, he'd be the greatest cruiserweight ever.
     
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    Who suggests Marciano hits like a Tyson?

    He's fighting Floyd Patterson, a guy his size
     
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    You're not thinking bigger picture. What if Cruiserweight limit went up to 220lbs in order to cater for these bigger 21st century athletes? Someone would then argue as you have that a cruiserweight cannot compete with Heavyweight power.

    The weight limits are mythical boundaries...but weight advantage is still weight advantage.
     
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    Marciano has the power to KO Patterson, but Patterson is also a bomber, and he could well KO Marciano if the catches him good. He's also much faster and dynamic than Marciano.
     
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    That's silly

    Cruiserweight changed by just 10 pounds since 1981

    Now you are tossing a hypothetical out there to raise it twice as much in one fail swoop

    Mike Tyson carried 220 pounds on a 5'11 frame ... with 6+ additional inches, Joshua carries an additional 25-30 pounds ... it can be reasonably deduced that much of Joshua's additional weight is a function of being taller

    Rocky Marciano was 5'10 185 ... he's only an inch shorter than Tyson yet he's 35 pounds lighter
     
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    Patterson wasn't a bomber ... he had good pop but he wasn't a huge puncher ever
     
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    Disagreed, he was fighting guys bigger than him, and almost always hurt them when he touched them good
     
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    He was a big puncher for his size yes, but in the ring he doesn't get pity points, there is no such thing as p4p knockout. Liston was bigger and hit harder and there is no reason to believe Marciano would repeat what he did.

    Also, when you look at Marciano's results he didn't knock anyone good out quickly, his weapon was the accumulation. He had the ability to throw hundreds of hard shots but he wasn't a one-punch KO artist. That reputation is mostly based on a photograph.

    Marciano does get underrated often, but portraying him as a subtle master technician who knocked out giants with single shots is far away from the truth, too
     
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    Like who? What bigger guy did he hurt? His challengers were the worst since Tommy Burns ... all of his KOs were against bums around his size ...
     
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    Who's the best heavyweight Patterson beat in a match? Quarry? Chuvalo?
     
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    Actually he couldn't even beat Jerry

    So I guess it's Chuvalo or possibly Oscar Bonavena

    Unless you mistakenly think Ingo was a good fighter
     
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    He did stretch an old Archie Moore.
     
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    Yes after Marciano had performed an autopsy on him
     
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    Say what you want about Rocky, cause at the end of the end...






    He beat Joe Louis' ass!
     
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    In all fairness, he did beat Quarry, Ellis and Bonavena. Not exactly a murderer's row, but not that far from aging Marciano either. The same Marciano who got seriously hurt by Moore and Charles
     
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    I'm not sure Marciano beat a prime Quarry
     
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    He didn't beat Quarry or Ellis

    The Ezzard Charles that Rocky fought probably beats Patterson, same goes for Walcott

    Ezzard injured Marciano but he didn't badly hurt him and I think it's a stretch to claim he was "seriously" hurt by Moore
     
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    Yeah neither did Patterson
     
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    At least he was seriously "hurt" by "Moore"
     
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    Who said he did?

    But IIRC, I had him edging that fight
     
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    Exactly. Liston was a much much harder puncher than Marciano
     

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