Mayweather will never fight Williams

This isn't the first time I've made this statement but:

Williams is bad stylewise for Mayweather, as well as height wise.
One other reason that I have emphasized here before! The southpaw factor!
I truly believe when we examine any match up involving a southpaw we need to look at how the fighter has done against southpaws. You can have a hundred fights and be very good. This doesn't matter because fighting a southpaw is a different can of worms. There is a reason fighters
avoid southpaws and have since the marquess de Queensbury became a fad.
Mayweather is no exception here. And I offer several facts to support this.

1. When Mayweather beat Carlos Gerena, in the post fight interview Jim Gray asked about a unification with WBA champion southpaw Joel Casamayor. Mayweather responded, sure I'll fight Garcia(roberto) or anyone, bypassing the question, Gray caught this and came back with Casamayor's name. Mayweather again worked around it. The fight never happened

2. 2002-04-20 Floyd Mayweather fought and beat(?) Jose L. Castillo in their first contraversial bout for the lightweight title. On the undercard was the WBC elimination bout to determine the next title challenger for the belt. Southpaw Stevie Johnston beat Alejandro Gonzalez via 12 round decision.
Mayweather refused to fight his mandatory, Johnston waited a year and a half and then had to fight another WBC title elimination. Johnston lost to Juan Lazcano in that bout.(Lazcano didn't get Mayweather either but this is about southpaws isn't it)

3.Mayweather fights a southpaw! 2006-04-08 Actually he fought Sharmba Mitchell first, Mayweather fought the used up and often KO'd Mitchell to earn a shot at Zab Judah for the title(actually Judah had just lost his title but the fact he was fighting Mayweather they gave it back).
-Floyd Mayweather vs. Zab Judah-, I ask why Judah did better against Mayweather than he did against Baldomir. The same Baldomir Mayweather dominated. I'll tell you the reason! Styles make fights! Judah is a southpaw period.
I guess the point I am trying to make is that Mayweather has made a career avoiding the unorthodox stance, the southpaws. If he had taken them on earlier in his career perhaps he would be better at handling the style. But he didn't. So now he he is best served avoiding them. That is why the Williams fight will never happen.

4. The Sparring incident with Paul Spadafora; Everyone knows about that noted sparring incident when Spadafora dominated Mayweather, consider the possibility it had more to do with Spadafora being a southpaw more than a great fighter.

If this concept is hard too grasp, consider the fact Mayweather has fought three southpaws in 38 fights(his whole career), by comparision Bernard Hopkins has fought 7 in his last 17. Nine in his last 23.

It is no secret when developing a fighter it is good to have the fighter meet different styles and learn to handle them. I think learning to fight southpaws is important, unless you can avoid them.

I would agree Cotto deserves Mayweather more, but if you held a gun to Mayweather's head(it would take this for either fight) and said he had to fight Cotto or Williams for the same money, I bet he would take Cotto.

I know I'm going to hear it now from Floyd followers, but the Floyds avoidence of southpaws is no secret in boxing circles. The facts are here!

Floyd Will Never Fight Paul Williams

 

And neither should he! Fuck Williams! ::

 

yeah, fuck fighting the best fighters in your weightclass. :bears:

 

I guess he shouldn't that way he can remain unbeaten and Floyd and HBO can continue to tell us the most protected superstar in history is a all time great.:clap:

 

Williams whupped the man whom Pretty Boy had been ducking flat out for years.

 

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Floyd was ducking Margarito about as much as Ricky Hatton's been ducking "Vicious" Vivian Harris.

I guess Pacquaio has been ducking Valero too?

 

No need to fight williams. He should fight Cotto and then have one more fight against possibly Cintron/Margarito or maybe Pavlik (high risk but HIGH REWARD)..and then retire. No point in high risk low reward fights like Williams.

He'd beat Williams btw...but it's not worth the risk

 

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yes, fight the guy who got beat by Williams, or the guy that the guy who got beat Williams absolutely destroyeD, but DON'T fight Williams.

Brilliant logic.


P4P top 5, EVER!!! :laughing:

 

IMO..Floyd obligated to fight Cotto and that's it. I noticed that you never mentioned Cotto in your "rebuttal".

Don't try to contest logic with me, Serb. :nono:

 

Good points. Nice post BTW. But, honestly, I think if Williams offered the kind of reward Cotto would offer financially and publicly, I'm sure he'd fight him. I don't see Mayweather as a ducker, he's just a fine business man that weighs all factors before taking a match-up. Williams has to build up his name more and make this fight unavoidable for Floyd, a bit like Cotto did even though we don't clearly know what were his objectivees. Unfortunately for Williams, he's short on time because Floyd will most likely retire sooner than later. That's unfortunate for him because I actually think he deserves that kind of fight when you take his status in the division into account and who he just beat. I think he should pursue a fight against Cotto, he's has a pretty good shot and I'd venture to say this fight has a lot more chances to happen.

 

you wouldn't know logic if it hit you in the face. :tease:

 

Well...nothing's hitting me in the face with your posts! ::

 

nothing but the FACTS, NOT FICTION!!!

 

Paul Williams is a stylistic nightmare for anybody at 147. A tall, rangy, southpaw with a high punch output would give anybody fits. It's a shame he looks like such a goofy bastard in there lmao

 

It's really amazing how good Williams has become in a week he didn't even fight.

 

why don't add Berto to the list of fighters Floyd needs to fight to prove himself. and Chavez jr. while your at it. ::

 

not only did judah give mayweather a good fight, corley rocked mayweather worse than anyone else mayweather faced in his career.

top rank has also made it known that mayweather was NEVER anxious to face johnston.

williams being a southpaw definitely makes him a more difficult fight, particularly for mayweather.

the biggest problem williams has is that he brings nothing to a ppv promotion. maybe if he knocks out delahoya and mosley he will become a financially viable foe.

 

I agree.

Floyd definitively has to wait 15 years until Chavez Jr is ready for him to beat and prove he's indeed the P4P best!

 

comparing Berto and Chavez little to Williams is absurd. :notallthere:

SO he should fight Cintron and/or Margarito, but Not Williams? ::

 

Has Williams done anything to deserve a shot at greatness that is PBF?

 

"m not comparing them. What I'm saying is that someone like Floyd is looking for big fights and big paydays.

The guy fights about twice a year. You actually think he will take on the least known oponents? Guys who haven't done much?

I remember when Floyd was younger he used to call out Oscar and could never land that fight simply because he wasn't a big name.

That's the way it's always worked in the history of boxing. You have to earn big fights. Only so often does a young unproven fighter lands a huge fight.

 

Exactly. They'll always be somebody. Hey there's this 16 year old Mexican that jusat turned pro lst month and looks like a great prospect. I guarantee Floyd won't take the challenge of fighting him.::

 

Floyd fights in the Welterweight division. Cotto and Williams are the other two best fighters at 147.

LOL! at comparing Williams to Berto or Chavez. Oh no, Floyd will always have challenges so what's the point in fighting Williams?

Floyd doesn't need to prove himself anymore? ::

It's fucking Roy Jones all over again.

 

He ain't fucking with Williams ::


And I thought Floyd was a megastar? Why does he have to depend on other fighters popularity to sell fights?

 

Not yet but its getting there........Floyd ain't fighting part time cops and firemen yet

 

I don't want to be misunderstood here. I'm not saying Williams is great, I'm not saying Williams is the most deserving challenger. I am saying Mayweather won't fight him. I am saying Mayweather has avoided southpaws and will continue to. For the same reason Williams is too dangerous for him to fight.

Reference was made to Roy Jones Jr.
At least when Roy Jones Jr. moved up to a heavier weight, the lightheavyweight division and he unified. All the belts one at a time. He fought guys 4 inches taller than him. He never avoided them because they were too big. So after the fight when Merchant and Lampley said they understand that Mayweather doesn't want to fight Cotto and Williams because they are too big! I say crock of sh%t. Mayweather weighs 147 lbs. Are Cotto and Williams 163lbs desquised as 147lbs, NO, 147 is 147 period. Lampley and Merchant work for HBO and Mayweather is HBO property.
Let me ask you guys that won't consider the possiblity that Mayweather has avoided southpaws to open your minds for a moment.
Roy Jones Jr. fought eight southpaws just as lightheavyweight champion.
Then consider Mayweather fought three his entire career. Get the idea?

 

Williams is PBF's toughest fight, and no, PBF would never fight him.

 

The answer to this is match Williams and Cotto, simple.

Mayweather is 'retired' because there's no clear number 1 challenger.

The winner of a fight between those 2 would establish a true welterweight force, an undisputed number 1 contender.

 

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