Miranda vs. Kessler on HBO in May or June?

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  1. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx WBC Champion

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    That appears to be the word on the street. Apparently a deal is close...


    http://sporten.tv2.dk/article.php/id...5.html?forside

    Bad Danish to English translation:

    Boxes Mikkel Kessler is highly dense at another action , there shall boxes to America. Matchmaker Mogens Palle is so far advance to the negotiations , that the parties discusses a date by the engagement. The opponent proves most likely Edison Miranda , there has boxes 32 the engagement and vundet they 30. Vi is far advance , by vi discusses too a specific date " says Mogens Palle to TELEVISION 2 The sport. The americans television - station HBO vil orchard set the engagement the 10. may Mogens Palle notices all the engagement to june , however whatever date think Mogens Palle Mikkel Kessler can be attach. " i anser settled Mikkel to være universe good supermellemvægter. That think i when , that he can be. However it is not a soul , decent handles by and boxes and handles lightly på, " says Mogens Palle. Mikkel Kessler is a attraction adversary and is too been quotation a action to England , so no is definitely , ante the contract is signed. " decent shall of course subscribe the card's awhile dense in to the trunk and orchard ice to the stomach and await and look , what there occurs " says Mogens Palle. Mikkel Kessler were ultimate to the tire , when he lost to Joe Calzaghe last year.

    :bears:


    I like the Dane here. Possibly by KO. Thoughts?
     
  2. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I think Miranda is an easy guy to dislike because of his bullshit yapping and an easy guy to like because he has zero fear.
     
  3. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    To me he's the kind of guy that i don't really care if he wins or loses, but i like to watch him fight. I'll enjoy either result.
     
  4. Donnybrook

    Donnybrook The Greatest of Are Times

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    I like Kessler too in this one - legit fight for both men; and Miranda is definitely even more of a threat at 168 lbs.

    That being said, I may be in the minority, but I have always wanted to see Calzaghe-Kessler II, and I know Mikkel was (and is) clamoring for it.

    Peace.
     
  5. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    dsimon writes:

    Kessler will treat Miranda like a cheap (as opposed to expensive:lol:) Columbian prostitute!

    Calzighe owns Kessler mentally and before Kessler fights him again Kessler has to get over that.
     
  6. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    I see you didn't learn your lesson Donny. Calzaghe is simply the better fighter, and too crafty and unpredictable for the proficient but robotic Kessler. Calzaghe would beat him 9 out of 10.
     
  7. adamiw

    adamiw Undisputed Champion

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    i've had a couple, but that is a hard read!

    great, hope the fight does happen.....can't see past Kessler systematically beating Miranda down and eventually stopping him....but should be pretty exciting
     
  8. Donnybrook

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    To me, the fact that Kessler was clamoring endlessly for a rematch - even writing open letters - tells me he did get over it and recognized what happened (and I'm not sure it's about being "owned mentally").

    One of the things he immediately said was that he realized he needed to throw more combinations instead of trying to land harder shots - and indeed, that was one of the key reasons he lost b/c Calzaghe capitalized on it.

    The fact that Calzaghe immediately shut down any and all possible talks and said "I'm not one for rematches and he will only get better" also tells me a little something as well.

    I think Calzaghe was more bothered in that fight than people think, because he covers it so beautifully in the ring.

    I also had it a bit closer than most, I think.

    Net, it is a great, great victory for Calzaghe. Huge. And he won it clean, no doubt.

    But I'd certainly be up for and intrigued by a rematch.

    Peace.
     
  9. Donnybrook

    Donnybrook The Greatest of Are Times

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    See above and stop your endless parroting. :tease: :lol:
     
  10. Rabid Kimba

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    I'm taking Miranda...I'm not sold on Mr Roboto.

    :popcorn:
     
  11. Explosivo

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    I'm on par with Donnybrook to an extent.

    Kessler could have fought so much better than he did,...he is very talented.

    Miranda will always have the proverbial punchers chance against anyone,...but a skilled technician, which Kessler is, will usually tear him up.

    So,.......I see Kessler beating the crap outta Miranda to the point that fans will be clamoring for a Calzaghe rematch.
     
  12. Donnybrook

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    Kinda my thinking as well.
     
  13. Double L

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    wow. i kinda give miranda the edge.
     
  14. dsimon3387

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    dsimon writes:

    Calzighe, Jones, Mayweather... they give you one crack thats it, unless they lose :lol:. I think Kessler should have realized that and left more in the ring. I think his problem was not technical it was that he allowed himself to not go for broke. He should have known he wouldn't get a rematch and went for it. He was risk averse.

    He should have done more and I think he knows he won't get a rematch so it is convenient to ask for one. I know that is cynical but Kessler essentially punked out against Joe. Joe was playing with him in the latter part of the fight.
     
  15. Donnybrook

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    Kessler's "asking" does not have the ring of convenience to it.

    He was asking pretty much immediately after the fight and has continued to in all forums available.

    Sure, he knows he should have done more - that's what he realizes and that's why he wants the rematch.

    He did dial it up in the 11th and 12th but too little too late.

    That's what he wants to correct.

    If we went by the logic of "well, he shouldn't have made the mistakes he did the first time, so he doesn't deserve a rematch"....

    Well, we'd never have rematches.

    Peace.
     
  16. Xplosive

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    Miranda is 0-2 against white guys. If this fight comes off, he'll be 0-3.
     
  17. KaukipRrr

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    I'll eat my crow to this, I've got to hand it to you, you prophicized exactly what would happen, Calzaghe proved he could fight on the front foot and back and at all ranges, he moved his head well, he was accurate, buisy, and varied his shots both to the body and head accordingly, it's just a great shame the bastard will not fight to his fullest potential every outing :nono:.
     
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    [​IMG] Just a sample of how your brain works.
     
  19. mexican wedding shirt

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    Exactly :bears:

    And indeed, it is a shame that Calzaghe has been so inconsistent.

    And Donny - you're usually very objective and spot on, but you're coming off almost like a Kessler nuthugger.

    That was not a close fight. In the second half of the fight, Kessler looked utterly out of his depth. Calzaghe was as relaxed as anything, just giving Kessler a casual beating, not unlike many of his opponents.

    Kessler is a SOLID fighter, but he is not an elite fighter, and Calzaghe is.

    He is far too predictable and robotic to ever beat Calzaghe. Calzaghe is too skilled, too crafty, too fast, too tough, and too unpredictable. He's just flat out the better fighter, and has a style that matches up favourably to Kessler's robotic style.

    To be honest I was fucking amazed that so many people were not just picking Kessler, but acting like Calzaghe didn't have much of a chance. And it's not even like I'm a calzaghe fan or kessler hater.
     
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    Nah, you are not a Calzaghe fan, but do you swallow? How does welsh cum taste?
     
  21. joony

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    miranda is a ballsy guy, but at the end, he'll be adding another L to his column.
     
  22. salaco

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    Calzaghe-Kessler was a close fight IMO, Calzaghe was clever enough to confuse Kessler enough in the middle to late rounds but he was never laying a beating on him, he was just doing that much more to win the rounds...I would give Kessler a good chance in a rematch but I don't think it will happen nor is he obliged to get it at this point
     
  23. mexican wedding shirt

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    I wouldn't know, here in the UK it's not normal for guys to suck each other off like in Germany.

    You filthy German fiend. I should bash you.
     
  24. mexican wedding shirt

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    I had it 9 rounds to 3 for Calzaghe. The fight looked exactly as I envisaged in my head. Kessler was outclassed. Competitive to some extent, it wasn't a whitewash or 1 sided beating, but by the end of the fight Kessler looked out of his depth.
     
  25. IMDAZED

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    Agreed.

    I never thought THAT highly of Kessler though. I think he's got incredible skills, so much so that it's hard to believe he isn't better than what he appears to be. But like Floyd would say, "he's straight up and down with no epecial effects." He can't/won't be able to beat Joe C. ever, but he'll always paste guys like Miranda.
     
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    Who cares.
     
  27. salaco

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    I had it 8-4
     
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    agREED...

    Some Guys R Enamoured w/Kessler's "Technique", but "Technique" DOESN'T Equate to Automatic Greatness...

    N Some Ways, being "Technical" is Akin to being BASIC, which is just How Kessler Looked Against Calzaghe...Calzaghe had those EXTRA Dimensions that Kessler is DEVOID of & Until Calzaghe LOST those Dimensions or Until they SLIPPED a Bit, Kessler WOULD NEVER Beat him...

    The 2nd Half of the Bout was Pretty DECISIVE for Calzaghe & REED has NEVER Pretended to B a Calzaghe Fan...

    REED:cool:
     
  29. mexican wedding shirt

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    That's pretty much how I feel too. Solid fighter, skilled fighter, but somehow just never found him that impressive.

    He just doesn't have that "it" factor. As sloppy as Calzaghe can look, and inconsistent, he most definitely has "it".
     
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    By the Way, PROPS to Kessler for Getting Right Back ON that Horse & Facing Someone Meaningful...

    Miranda is LIMITED, but he's Undeniably DANGEROUS...


    REED:cool:
     

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