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  1. Trplsec

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    Nick Diaz feels there are few fights left for him in Strikeforce and his next fight will be in a boxing ring.

    Nate Marquardt drops down to 170 pounds and gets Anthony Johnson in his debut.


    Strikeforce Payouts from the California State Athletic Commission:

     
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    Does he realize that the UFC bought Strikeforce?
     
  4. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    I was thinking the same thing. That's not bad at all. Something tells me he is going to try to use this recent exposure to secure a sham of a boxing match to cash in on.
     
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    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Exactly. Unless he's fighting a champion, he won't get that in boxing.
     
  6. Trplsec

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    Yep... And as delusional as Nick is about his boxing, he ain't ready for the Super 6.....LOL
     
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    diaz going for the shottest former world class fighter - jeff lacy.
     
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    Actually Diaz is going after Fernando Vargas. I hope Feroz knocks him into next week.
     
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    it might have to be at a catchweight of 190 pounds. haha
     
  10. Trplsec

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    Lacy or Vargas, shot or fat or both.....But how many guys make their pro boxing debuts against former champions?

    I smell a sickening promotion coming up. If they sell this shit on PPV, I might barf.
     
  11. Bob N Weave

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    Diaz is buying into his own hype. He will get smoked.
     
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    I've never watched a Diaz fight, but I'd be surprised if he could beat Vargas or Lacy, even though neither of those guys are top-50 boxers.
     
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    He isnt fighting vargas. He is targeting lacy.
     
  14. Trplsec

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    Don't worry dude, even Diaz pulls of an upset of either guy, we all know it doesn't mean anything.

    And trust me, MMA fans would rather seem him fight someone like Penn, Koscheck or Johnson instead of a sham of a boxing match.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'd like to see how he does at boxing. I think even Vargas or Lacy would be a bit much for him though.
     
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    I dont think Vargas would be. He is beyond shot.
     
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    El Feroz cant get licensed. That fight has been scrapped according to Cesar Gracie. Right now Jeff Lacy is most likely to be the opponent pending a physical.
     
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    Lazy just needs one shot and Diaz will see the stars.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't know man, Diaz is a guy with a good chin with 4oz MMA gloves. Not sure he's going to be easy for anyone to KO with boxing gloves.
     
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    lacy is shot and shouldnt be fighting anymore. i'm not even sure if he beats antwun echols. still, not sure how diaz would react to punches against the ropes when he's not allowed to get on the ground and do his bjj pose.
     
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    Boxer Jeff Lacy welcomes boxing match with Strikeforce champ Nick Diaz

    by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Apr 18, 2011 at 12:45 pm ET
    [​IMG]Just days after Nick Diaz's manager told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that the Strikeforce champion is eyeing a boxing match with Jeff Lacy, the veteran pugilist has answered the challenge.

    In fact, according to statements released by his camp, Lacy is interested in "heading to his turf and [putting] my fist in his mouth and silencing him."

    Cesar Gracie, Diaz's manager, told MMAjunkie.com this past week that his fighter had set his sights on Lacy, a former IBF super-middleweight champion, after a potential boxing match with Fernando Vargas fell apart.

    "We were talking about Vargas, but the thing is, I just came under some information that Vargas apparently has some kind of medical issue where he's not able to pass the test any more, and he could be retiring," Gracie said this past Thursday. "Vargas was very interested, but unfortunately, if he can't pass the test, he can't pass the test."

    They then shifted their focus to Lacy, a 33-year-old Floridian who owns a 25-4 pro record (though he's lost three of his past four, including a title loss to Roy Jones Jr. in 2009).

    He admittedly was surprised by Diaz's challenge.

    "Honestly, I was a little stunned," Lacy stated in the release. "Nick has accomplished a great deal in mixed martial arts and is certainly one of the best in the sport. But getting in the ring with me for a boxing match is a path he needs to be very wary of taking. I'm willing to put it all on the line anytime, anywhere."

    Lacy said he'd be willing to fight in Northern California (near Diaz's Stockton home) or Reno, Nev., "for the right price."

    While MMA fighters and boxers have publicly sparred in the past, boxers such as James Toney and Ray Mercer (both of whom were past their prime years) are among the few have tried MMA. To date, no major MMA star has taken on a boxing notable in a high-profile bout.

    Lacy's manager, though, thinks the Diaz bout makes sense for his client.

    "In my opinion, Nick Diaz has the best boxing/striking skills in the MMA game today, he's always in exceptional shape, his comfort level in the pocket and under fire is comparable to any seasoned boxing champion's, and I feel his hands are better than B.J. Penn's, who many believe is the best in the sport," rep Joey Gilbert stated.

    Gracie said Diaz's interest in boxing is the byproduct by a lack of interest in the challengers of Strikeforce's welterweight division, where the champ has defended his title three times in just six months.

    However, Strikeforce officials (and Zuffa LLC management) haven't discussed the possibility of Diaz getting approval for a boxing match.

    "People think he's better now, but he was physically in better shape [before the title fights]," Gracie said. "He's winning now because he's figured the game out of how to finish people quicker – how to deal with people that just want to hug you. He's not fighting a lot of wrestlers, obviously.

    "He's technically better than he ever was, but from a physical standpoint, he's not in the same shape. He's just not as motivated. We're just not seeing the best Nick Diaz out there, really. He's just kind of going through the motions. He's not training as hard as he used to. It's been a problem, really."
     
  22. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    That is not good to hear about Nick not training as hard.
     
  23. Bob N Weave

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    Lacy smashes him silly within 3. Write that down.
     
  24. Trplsec

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    Sig bet?

    I'm not saying Nick Diaz is ready for top ranked boxers, but I watched Lacy's last fight and I think I could take him. Plus I was reading comments from Omar Henry talking about how solid Nick's boxing is. I think it would be an interesting fight given Lacy's level of decline.

    Plus I don't think Lacy's even knocked anyone down since before the Calzaghe fight.

    What do you say? 2 Week Signature Bet if they happen to get it on? I say Nick makes it past 3...
     
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    Lacy made Roy Jones look like it was 1998. :lol:
     
  26. Trplsec

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    No shit.

    I feel like I need to be crystal clear that I don't think Diaz is even at the mediocre level among boxers right now. That being said, I honestly think Lacy is beneath mediocre at this point.

    That beat down by Calzaghe literally zapped every bit of skill, confidence and heart from Lacy.
     
  27. Bob N Weave

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    Let's do it.
     
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    Of course he said it was solid. He helped Nick with his boxing for the fight...
     
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    I think he put Taylor on his ass for a flash kd
     
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    Nick Diaz spars with Andre Ward. I wonder what Ward has to say about Nick's boxing.
     

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