Mosley vs Berto is a "Changing of the guard" fight.

Don't call it a comeback...

Just wanted to call it before it happens....

This fight is another one of those "Great aging champion who doesn't realize he's done meets a young prime hungry pseudo version of himself and gets WHUPPED" type of deals.

It's another Holmes-Ali, Tszyu-Chavez, Leonard-Norris, Marciano-Louis, Pacquiao-De La Hoya... etc fight.

Consider:

Even in his prime, Shane Mosley was a spurt-fighting, speedy slick slugger. However, at least then he was lightening fast and had great stamina....these skills made of for his other deficiencies.

"However" (Copywright Muzse 2006)

He's not the same fighter anymore folks. Sure, it was impressive (on the surface) to stop Margarito. But Tony is slow as molasses, has no defense and upon closer inspection of that fight... we see a very weary and sloppy Shane winging his punches and only catching the mummy because the mummy knew nothing about defense.

Don't forget that this is the same Shane who struggled with a SHOT Mayorga not too long ago.

How is he going to possibly beat Berto who is undefeated, young, hungry, FAST, has decent power, great stamina and throws a high volume of punces? Did I mention...YOUNG?

Shane, even in his prime was not known for being able to avoid punches..how is he now going to miraculously avoid all of Berto's crisp fast accurate uppercuts and other vaunted power punches.

Anyone who thinks Shane is going to win this fight is just dreaming. Delusional. Living on blind hope. Devoid of logic. Lacking boxing acumen and common sense.

Assuming that Berto's chin is at least half decent (Still a little question mark there I concede) Shane's only hope is to survive the distance and maintain a little of his dignity in the process. Mosley should have waited for the big payday against Mayweather...taking on Berto in the interim is an EXPENSIVE mistake.

Some of you may ridicule this post now..but NONE will be laughing on the night of January 30.

You'll all witness the sad destruction of a once great fighter at the hands of a younger fighter who mirrors his youth.

We've all seen it before and we shall see it again.

Heed the words of The Sly One!!

 

I can see Shane losing this. I can also see Shane timing the guy and laying him out. It could also turn into Joe Cal vs Jeff Lacy Part II, with the moronic young contender being fazed by Jabs and lateral movement.

 

Welcome back, Sly. :bears:

 

LOL. You would come back just to bash Shane.:laughing:

Mosley will stop Berto. Those were all flawed examples you gave because Berto isnt on the level of a Holmes, Norris, Tszyu, ect. and Shane isnt as washed up as Ali, Leonard, and Chavez were.

Berto's chin is highly suspect, but he could live w/that vs Shane if he didnt get hit so much. But unfortuntely for him, his defense sucks. Shane is eventually gonna catch him with something big, and seriously hurt him... and when that happens its a wrap for Berto cause Shane to this day is still a great finisher.

 

Thats what I was feeling. Is Berto a bigger faster Cotto, or is he a smaller faster Lacy? I think the latter.

 

i wonder if this bloke slystaff saw andre berto vs cosme rivera.

 

No. Mosley whups Berto.

 

i agree

 

I'm with Sly on this one. Although Mosely is on some good juice and has a good corner he'll still lose. Berto will be too fast and too explosive for Shane. Shanes recent wins have come against heavybags, i.e Vargas, Margarito, Mayorga...c'mon man anyone can land on those feet in the mud walking, talking heavybags. Berto is a whole other animal and he will make Shane look sloppy and pretty stupid fight night.

Berto by easy work.

 

I think Berto ends Mosley's run at the top for good.

 

To do that he will have to go back in time.

 

I can't see Shane losing this one. I'm not big on Berto at all and Shane will KO him in 9.

 

Berto get hit toooooo much....Mosley has a great chin.....Mosley is going to KO Berto...

Can Berto pick his spots like Cotto and outbox Mosley? NO

Can he outmuscle/outpunch Mosley like Winky/Forrest did..? no...

 

how about mosleys win over collazo? you know, that guy berto went life and death with

 

Mosley is REJUNEVATED. He is swimming without getting wet. New trainer, new methods.

He might get a little impatient when pressing but once he gets Berto to lead he'll start landing some serious shots to win the fight.

Then it's the winner of Pacquaio-Mayweather. The more reason to try to win impressively just as in the Margarito fight.

 

I thought of that and the Collazo win was a good one for Shane. Collazo is slick but isn't necessarily as good a boxer as a Cotto or a Berto. Collazo is pretty much in front of you and doesn't use his feet as well as Cotto or Berto either.

The way to beat Mosely is to either move your feet and use a good jab i.e Forest and Delahoya II or to stand your ground and get off first like Winky. Collazo tried the Winky tactic but wasn't as strong or as good as Winky. He stood in front of him and tried to outpunch Shane, it didn't work but it worked fine against Berto.

Regardless styles make fights and if Berto's people have half a brain they'll employ a strategy of movement a good jab, and lots of speed. Mosely will be swinging at air and will lose big.

 

Welcome back slystaff. Why don't you stick around for awhile. When are you planning your comeback?

 

Berto can't box...

 

Andre Berto DOES NOT have the Punch Resistance to BEAT Sugar Shane Mosley...Berto's SPEED & YOUTH will have him Out to an Early LEAD Over Shane, but @ SOME Point, Shane WILL Hit Berto in his Mouth & the Fight will ABRUPTLY Shift...

Berto Reacts VERY STRANGE Whenever he's Hit Flush...Sugar Shane is Gonna B the 1st of MANY Guys to KO Berto as a Professional...



REED:hammert:

 

I find that too. Berto's reactiondoes not seem to be purely physical either, I think he may be something of a bully who just doesn't like the getting-hit-back part of the game, and reacts badly to it. If he has a bad chin, it stems from his bad brain.

 

Berto has been hurt but he mostly reacts with a fighting spirit

 

If Berto had more proven punch resistance, I'd probably pick him to win.

As it is, I'm not too sold on his abilty to take shots, so I'm picking Mosley to stop him in the mid rounds.

 

He's not the best boxer that's true, but I think if he stays disciplined he can be better than he has been. Mosely is a sucker for a good uppercut too and Berto has one of the best in the game right now. We'll see how it plays out.

 

Yes but Vernon Forrest was like 6' tall could close in on Shane, pivot slightly and bring the shot up. Oscar had a very good left hooker-cut and he never got it working vs Shane.

 

I am thinking the same. Berto is athletic, but I don't think he is talented as a boxer.

 

i hope Shane just busts him up like he's a drunken bum, then stops him

 

I really feel like Margarito made Mosley look a lot better than he actually is at this stage of his career. I think Berto can give him some trouble, but if he wins it will be because Mosley is truly a shell of his former self. I think Mosley has enough left to win this one. Either by a late tko or a late rally to earn a decisive decision

 

i agree. a lot of folks also forget that mosley was getting outboxed by a shot to shit version of mayorga and needed a last second KO.

the margarito win was a huge surprise, but i don't expect a stellar performance from mosley whether he wins or loses. like everyone else, i'm picking mosley to win via KO, but i can certainly see berto frustrating mosley with movements and punching from the outside.

 

Aslong as Shane remembers to impliment a consistant body attack, kind've lean in with his ear pressed to the plump satch, and knock the pod for tenderness and boyancy, have a careful listen, and assess wether there's a chrysalis in the sack,..I think he oughta pop Berto out of the top of his own crust, like a broad-bean,.. and then the witnessing world oughta sadly sigh in unison, 'awwwwwwwwwww' Shane will feel terrible, watching this silky hybridized grub wriggling around with under-developed wings, blind and nibbling it's own slime like mother's milk. The meat will be useless, but it's like a drinking coconut,.. you can't really tell if it's ripe or green, unless you crack the wood and descendedly eye the contents like that of a crow.

 

Too bad Berto won't be able to handle Mosley's power