Okay F*ck it once and for all rate Windmill Wilder's power

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  1. BOSS

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    1-10

    I give him 7. If you rate him higher than me I'd love to hear why and I'll tell you why you're wrong..

    Btw Lennox and Shavers are 10. Tyson probably a 9 or 9.5.

    Foreman probably a 9.5 too
     
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    He has an incredibly powerful right hand. I despise him, but it's just facts.

    Would I put him above Lennox, Tyson, Foreman, aka the Holy Trinity of heavyweight punchers? No. Those guys destroyed quality fighters with proven chins. Wilder never did that.

    Wilder's up there though. He's top 10 all time in the division in terms of sheer power.
     
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    Also, I would never claim that Wilder is a great puncher. Just a very big puncher. There's a difference.

    Danny Lopez was a BIGGER puncher than Arguello. But Arguello was a better one.
     
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    I remember people used to rave about Samuel Peter based on his one and only highlight real ko over Jeremy Williams.... same shit here

    Fucking glass chinned Szpilka ate a ton of shots before literally jumping into a right hand he didn't see... eric molina took forever to be put away... arreola wasn't hurt by wilder... Charlie zelenoff ate a flush hook from wilder and was ok.... fury's chin sucks yet wilder failed to put him away in THREE FIGHTS....
     
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    Just curious who do you guys think is the hardest puncher in the hw division that ever lived??? I mean if we consider their ko ratios, quality of opponents, highlight reels kos I mean the whole shabang.

    Shavers
    Lewis
    Tyson
    Foreman


    I rate wilders punching power at 8 btw
     
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    Lewis no doubt
     
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    I would rate Tua Morrison Spoon and Ike off the top of my head over Wilder
     
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    Wilder is on Briggs level as far as power
     
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    That's wild.

    I never thought I would be defending Wilder so much, but he's a bigger hitter than Briggs was.
     
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    Tua and Morrison? Sure. You can argue their hooks were bigger than Wilder's cross. Ruddock and Cooney too.

    Spoon? I wouldn't say so. I would say that Spoon was much better than Wilder, and Spoon would fuck Wilder up, but as a pure puncher I think Wilder's right is more devastating.
     
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    Yes, that would be my top 4.

    Louis is the GREATEST puncher in heavyweight history, if not boxing history period.

    But if we're talking sheer power, yes, that would the top 4 I think most people would have.
     
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    Top 10 in heavyweight history as far as sheer power goes is a good argument… But he’s on the lower tier. Foreman, Lewis, Tyson, Louis, Shavers, Morrison, Tua, and Ruddock all hit harder IMO.
     
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    I think it's likely Wilder hits about as hard as anybody; but he hasn't proven it and likely never will.

    I'd probably put him between 4-7.
     
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    Look at the Szpilka fight. Szpilka is known for a glass chin. Wilder hit him with many flush right hands and nothing. That alone disqualifies him from any serious talk. The thing about Wilder is that when he gets excited he goes into windmill in a tornado mode...meaning FAST and his shots are coming from every angle shots in the back of the head shots where he's winding up from the lockeroom etc it's just a barrage of amateurish yet very fast onslaught of crap so people on the receiving end don't see it all coming and end up getting clipped with something they don't see. That's not pure punching power.
     
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    Uuuuuh, YOU PICKED Szpilka to WIN That Fight; Don't Recall You Saying SHIT About His "Glass Chin", Either...Worse, Motherfucker Literally Left the Ring on a GOTdamn STRETCHER, Yet Somehow Wilder is "Disqualified" from Any Serious Puncher Talk???...




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    If you knew anything about boxing you'd know getting hit with a punch you don't see is lights out... now add literally leaping into a punch you don't see... so ya in conclusion stfu
     
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    I don't recall if Mercer took a dive or not but if not then briggs ko'ing mercer is a better proof of power than anything wilder ever dreamed of doing...
     
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    If YOU Knew Anything About Boxing YOU Wouldn't Have Picked Szpilka to BEAT Wilder, Dipshit...

    But Instead of MANNING UP and Admitting Just How Pathetically WRONG You Were, Your HATE for Wilder Only Intensified...Bottom Line, When Fighter A Leaves Fighter B 100% INCAPABLE of Leaving the Ring Under His OWN Power, It's Idiotic AF to Suggest Fighter A DOESN'T Punch Hard...

    Nonetheless, That's Precisely What YOU Did...



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    1. Szpilka was according to most winning that fight

    2. Xplosive please remove this person from my thread before I lose my cool and retaliate.
     
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    Retaliate for WHAT, Educating Your Boxing Ignorant Ass???...

    Stop Posting CLOWN Ass Opinions and REED'll Stop Smacking You Around Like Your Name is BOZO:slap:...

    "Lose Your Cool"???:duck:...Fuck You, employee...What are You Gonna Do, Bang Your Keyboard REALLY Hard and Type in All CAPS???...



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    Did you ever see the video of Wilder sparring Charlie Zelenoff? If you've never heard of him he's this skinny whiteboy troll with zero boxing skills or experience. About 5'9 and only about 150 lbs soaking wet. Yet Wilder couldn't knock this mf out lol. I'm not kidding see for yourself...

     
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    X has given up trying to mod this place. My boxing interest in general is declining.
     
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    REED Knows Who Zelenoff Is and Has Seen the Video...

    So You're Just Gonna Leave Out Zelenoff Literally SPRINTING Around the Gym, Falling to the Ground Like a Chick in a Horror Flick and CROUCHING Into a Ball, Repeatedly???...

    To Say Wilder "Sparred" Zelenoff is a Fucking JOKE Bruh...




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    employee Never Should've Involved You Anyways...

    REED's Initial Response to Him was STRICTLY Boxing Related...He Told REED to "STFU" in His Response, So REED Countered by Calling employee a "Dipshit"...No General Forum Rules Violated...

    employee's PMS'ing Because REED Exposed Him...How the FUCK Are You Gonna Hold Szpilka AGAINST Wilder When You Literally PICKED Szpilka to BEAT Wilder???...

    Motherfucker Left the Ring on a Stretcher, Rocking a GOTdamn NECKBRACE, But Wilder DOESN'T Punch Hard, Huh???...That's a CLOWN Ass Boxing Opinion...

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    Even though I don't rate him highly, Wilder's a huge puncher. Boss seems to confuse ability to land (which he severely lacks) with power.
     
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    Wilder is similar to Antwun Echols. Freak power. Shit delivery system. To be fair, Wilder's a better fighter than Echols was. But you get the point.
     
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    Oh I agree with you here, but I wouldn't rate Briggs a 7 on the power scale though. Somewhere between 8 and 9 (closer to 9)
     
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    ^^^This freakish punching power but it could be tamed. Echols...Miranda...Wilder is those guys just better all around....
     
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    Mannnnn Shannon Briggs couldn't put a dent in Darroll Wilson... a total bum. Then got KO'd by Wilson.

    In Wilson's very next fight, Tua iced him with 1 left hook in the first round.

    GTFOH about Shannon Briggs' power! Wilder is unquestionably a bigger hitter.
     

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