(old) George Foreman vs Razor Ruddock

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  1. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Let's say the title winning old George vs the Ruddock that fought Tyson.

    Who wins?
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Ruddock outworks him to a clear decision. Foreman was powerful but at '94 his punches lacked the sharpness to take out Razor who could take a punch somewhat. Ruddock would not hurt Foreman much but he would land enough to win.
     
  3. cdogg187

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    Ruddock by death.

    Old Foreman's good chin would be his undoing here and he'd collapse from the punishment in around the 8th.
     
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    I disagree with that... Holyfield was a much more skillful guy than Ruddock and he could not possible have landed more on Foreman than he did... Tommy Morrison landed quite a few bombs on Foreman... they couldn't put him down either

    Ruddock was one dimensional... outside of the "smash" his punches were nothing spectacular... that one punch was his only major weapon and it's not the kind of punch you land 100 times in a fight... plus he would respect Foreman's power enough to be a bit more careful
     
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    In MMs we're really talking about the fighter in their primes unless otherwise stated. The Ruddock who beat Dokes following Bone Crusher Smith and on his way to tussling with Tyson is not a guy that would have too much respect for the power of an old Foreman. Also you say that outside of the "smash" his punches were nothing spectacular? I agree. Bt the SMASH itself was ridiculously "spectacular" and it will be easily landed on older slower Foreman again and again and again.

    Also Ruddock's right hand carried some weight too (when he used it).

    I see Foreman being seriously hurt here. I can't envisage any other scenario.
     
  7. cdogg187

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    Ruddock was comprehensively outboxed by Dokes until he landed the Smash, and Tyson won almost every minute of their two fights... I think Ruddock gets far too much credit for getting his ass kicked in by Tyson... I just don't think he was all that good
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    At the risk of being called a copycat by the peanut gallery...I totally agree. I have had a similar opinion of Ruddock forever. Ruddock's entire claim to fame is taking two beatings from Tyson.
     
  9. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Shocking, positively shocking
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Is it even more shocking than how much of a childish loser you are? I'm sure your tiny, tiny brain thinks this is really clever, but as usual you are incorrect.

    Poor Stafford. It must suck to be you.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    chill a bit. I was merely having some fun.
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Dunno man...your "having fun" doesn't seem a whole lot different than your usual assholish behavior toward me. But at least you didn't threaten to make me sleep with the fishes or some other such nonsense.
     
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    Ok Luca Brasi....
     
  14. gibola

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    Tricky fight to predict - two big punchers, The old Foreman was steady, waddled in behind that heavy jab, and was very mentally strong as though it was inevitable he was gonna get ya. He could be hit, but when he was, he didn't panic and he soon regained control.
    Ruddock was strong, quick but his balance was horrible and he was massively one-handed. You may disagree but the dancing Ruddock of 86-88 may well have beaten Foreman (ie- the Razor of the Weaver fight) but the 91-92 Tyson version stood in front of guys trying to land the big punch. Razor found out he could punch and forgot he could box if you ask me. His boxing never developed and indeed, seemed to regress as the years went by.
    I think the older Foreman loses the early rounds, survives some big bombs and begins to establish the jab in the rounds 4-5. It is posibble Ruddock outworks him down the stretch but I believe Foreman would have connected more and more as the fight went on. Foreman by KO in 8 or 9. Too consistent, too experienced and in the end, too powerful for Razor.

    I could be wrong tho!

    Gibola
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Ruddock would batter the old Foreman badly, probably leading to a ref/corner stoppage.
     
  16. Dog Jones

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    I'd pick '91 Foreman to beat Ruddock, but I wouldn't pick the '94 version over him
     
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    90s Foreman. :lol:

    Amazing how fraudulent this guy is MM. Any decent HW of that time beats this glorified can with a punch.
     
  18. cdogg187

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    Michael Moorer was certainly pretty decent

    Considering only one guy here is picking Foreman, I don't see what your point is
     
  19. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    I'm a little surprised (not stunned) Ruddock has 90% support here.

    I think I would take Foreman, in truth. Sturdier whiskers, more experience, a much smarter fighter, has the punch to get the job done. He just feels right for this one.
     
  20. loadedgloves

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    Michael Moorer also beat up Foreman for most of the fight until he got caught. And he never had the greatest chin to begin with..
     
  21. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Exactly, one fluke, and possibly rigged punch makes this fraud so great in MM. Truth is, dude lost to Shannon Briggs and ripped off a no name German can by the name of Axel Schulz.

    Sans the one, possibly fixed KO over Moorer, he lost to any non-can he fought. Ruddock wins easily.
     
  22. cdogg187

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    possibly fixed?

    says who? you and 3 or 4 other retards on the internet?
     
  23. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Yes, what a retarded sentiment that a BOXING fight might have been fixed. That's never happened before.

    Ever.
     
  24. cdogg187

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    It's an extremely retarded statement when the KO is crystal clear and available in slow motion at several different angles, the puncher is one who, even in old age, still possessed effortless power and the recipient is a man who always had highly vulnerable whiskers

    yes, EXTREMELY fucking retarded
     
  25. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    Lol seriously
     
  26. TLC

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    That wasn't slow motion that you saw, that was the actual punch in real time. It just looks like slow motion.
     
  27. steve_dave

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    Foreman won at least nine rounds vs. Briggs.
     
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    hahaha

    it's still one of the most absurd theories in existence

    Foreman KOd Michael Moorer fair and square
     

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