One thing's for sure: Compubox was full of shit on Saturday

No matter who you thought won on Saturday, one thing cannot be denied. Compubox was full of shit. They had PBF landing nearly 50% of his punches. That simply cannot have been true. It's impossible.

By the way, I rewatched the fight and scored it for ODH. ::

Seriously, though, ODH didn't do as badly as I remembered. It was only from the 9th round on that he stopped using his jab. And PBF was handling him easily in the 11th round. But other than that, it was a damn close fight, and if you ask me, ODH deserved the decision. ODH made the fight. He was the one pressing the action. He was the one landing hard shots.

Does anyone else agree that compubox seemed awfully generous to PBF? Given the amount of shots we know he missed, how is it possible he could've landed 50% of his shots? It simply is not.

 

Compubox is usually always full of shit in one way or another. Doesn't mean DeLaHoya won the fight though. :nono:

 

What took you so long to come up with this thread? I expected you would post something like this on Saturday :dunno: :dunno:

 

The love-hate relationship you have with CompuBox is amazing.

Punchstats for DLH-Mosley II was your leading criteria as to why Oscar won the fight, now you've done a 180.

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For the record, CompuBox had MOsley landing four or five jabs through the first four rounds when he landed double that in the first round.

Double...Oscar lost the fight...there's no controversy.

 

i don't remember using Compubox as an argument, but if you say so.

if there's no controversey, why does HBO say, "you can score it for yourself!," in their ad for the replay? ::

seriously, though, ODH didn't do as bad as i remembered. he definitely got tired towards the end and it probably cost him the fight, but i had him ahead after 8 rounds, 5 to 3.

 

Uhhh, ratings? :dunno:

 

Gee...I don't know...perhaps they want a little something called RATINGS?

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I wasn't a big fan of compubox when at the Winky Wright vs. Sam Soliman fight, I saw them sitting about fifty feet away from the ring. With all the crazyness surrounding the Floyd vs. Oscar fight, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same this time around and they just couldn't see the punches miss.

 

It's people pressing buttons.

They might as well have had that guy off 24/7 counting the punches with that little clicker....'the numbers dont lie'...bollocks

 

yep. and what's funny is Lederman's score-card almost never conflicts with compubox, and Lampley acts like it's the only thing that matters. and he also gives the impression it's not subject to human error.

 

It's funny because I saw some dude on youtube that broke down the whold fight in slo-mo and actually counted the number of punches that they were landing.

 

yeah? and what did he come up with? i'd be interested to know that.

still, even if compubox were 100% accurate (which it can never be), it would still be of only moderate importance.

 

Compubox has always been off.

Trinidad landed 166 punches on De La Hoya? De La Hoya landing 263 on Tito?

Gatti landing 41 punches on Mayweather? ::

Maybe about 4 punches.

 

To me they were counting the BLOCKED shots. That's why it was so off.

De la Hoya was the champion and he was pressing the fight. A challenger has to win in a more convincing fashion.

De la Hoya won.

 

I know he had Mayweather winning. I think that the videos might have been taken off because I can't find them now, but he counted and showed every punch that each landed.

I didn't watch them all but the one that I remember was the third round where Mayweather outlanded De La Hoya like 21 to 10.

 

dsimon writes:

Good information! :bears: To me the ability to look at the punches slow mo is a very reliable way to make this determination.

 

that's what i'm thinking. that's the only way they could've arrived at the numbers they reported. and even Lampley, during the fight, was calling out blocked shots as having landed.

 

Was last Saturday the first time you've heard Lampley do that? When DOESN'T Lamps do that?

Lampley: "Big right hand by Jermain Taylor!!!!!!!!"

Roy Jones: "Actually, Bernard landed a good lefthook Jim."

(Bernard Hopkins lands a right hand which stuns Jermain Taylor)

Lampley: "Jermain Taylor lures Bernard Hopkins to the ropes!!!!"

(Oscar De La Hoya misses seven consecutive punches in the Mosley rematch)

Lampley: "Look at Oscar!!!! He wants to fight!!!!!"

(Oscar De La Hoya misses six consecutive punches vs Pernell Whitaker)

Lampley: "And Oscar De La Hoya punctuates the round with a six punch combination!!!!"

 

I agree that compubox was crap that night and Delahoya did press the action the whole fight.
If Delahoya not pressed the action there would be no action. I had the fight a draw and I feel Mayweather did not do enough to take the title away from the champion.

 

lampey always talks over the part where the hbo favorite gets their ass kicked, hell talk about anything, training, the mans wife, butas soon as the fav lands one punch hes back, nice lead right hand from taylor

 

No one is surprised. :tease:

 

you move down another knotch in my book, takes a real weak man not to admit the obvious

 

So if the compubox numbers were off and Floyd didn't land 50% of his punches, does that mean that De La Hoya landed less than 20% of his punches?

 

:bears: :bears: :bears:

PBF Landed SHIT all night long ....
Yeah , he snuck in a few shots here and there ....
However for the most part he was punching air and glove which CB gave him credit for punches landed ....
There is no possible way his throw to land percentage was better then DLH's in this fight ... No way in fucking hell ...

I'm getting sick of these damm AMATURES calling these fights. Both CB and the judges ...
ALL these guys should be experienced enough to see whats going on the proper way ..
You don't click a damm point for Mayweather just because he throws a jab and it hits DLH's glove and you hear a noise ...
That IS NOT a point and should not be scored as one !!

 

hell yeah the only good punches landed that night where the ones on the side of floyds ass when oscar was pressing the action, i know i saw him wobble, those ass punches were the cleanest punches of the night, floyd was only landing on the glove, oscar was landing flush to the side of floyds ass all night

 

So do you score points for Oscar following Mayweather around the ring and not throwing punches. Or do you score points for De La Hoya landing 2 out of every 8 punches he threw while Floyd was against the ropes?

 

Admit what? That Mayweather was running the whole fight throwing 1 punch at a time? Delahoya is clearly off his prime and Mayweather in my opinion did not do enough to take his title.

 

Did you expect any different from Lampley?

Remember his reaction at the end of the Taylor-Hopkins rematch?

"FOUR PUNCHES FROM TAYLOR!!! HE GOT HOPKINS THAT TIME!!!!"

No punches landed.

He does it for the house fighter, but he's also done it for the other guy as well. I remember during the DLH-Mosley rematch everyone was down on HBO's bias. Although Lampley as usual was going nuts over Oscar's missed and blocked shots, he also had some instances where he said Mosley landed when he didn't.

 

You're not being level on this ...
I never said that ...

Lets clear something up here first ....

Yes , Floyd landed punches ... However , it was clear he missed allot and hit allot of gloves for the most part ...
Also its easier to score Oscars shots then Mayweathers ...
You could tell for the most part when Oscar landed or missed.
Oscar was not moving from Mayweather. He opted to just block rather then move or back up ...
With that said , you HEARD allot of noise during these blocked punches of glove hitting glove ...
It's quite hard to see that Mayweathers punch did not land because of his speed coupled with a "contact noise".

I think this has many people fooled as to what was really taking place in the ring this past Saturday ...

 

I do that all the time when I edit fights to make highlight reels of it.

I can't see if the punch really lands in regular speed, so I do slow-mo to see if it's slipped or not.