List those Fights that Some or Many CLAIM to B "Robberies",that U just DON'T Agree w/... 1 of the Most BLATANT Examples of this is Cassius Clay vs Doug Jones...EVERY Ali Hater CLINGS to him LOSING & "Getting a GIFT" Against Doug Jones,but if U WATCH that Fight, it's VERY Difficult to Give Jones MORE than 3-4 CLEAR Rounds... A CHILD Could Watch that Fight & Have Ali Winning 6 of 10 Rounds,yet the "Robbed" Myth PERSISTS... REED Can Think of ALOT More,but'll Let some of Ya'll List them...& YEP,Ali "Robbed" a Guy or 2 N his Career,but Doug Jones WASN'T 1 of them:nono: ... Just so we're CLEAR,a "Robbery" is when 1 Guy BEATS Another to the Degree that there's NO SENSIBLE Case to B Made for him Losing, yet he DOES... For Instance,Bernard-Taylor I DOESN'T Count as a "Robbery" to REED,Because Bernard GAVE AWAY Sooooooo Many of the Early Rounds...Sure,Bernard ARGUABLY Won the Fight,but U Could just as STRONGLY Present a Case for that Bout Being a DRAW or a Taylor VICTORY... Roy N Seoul '88 was a "Robbery"...Taylor-Hopkins I WAS NOT:nono: ... Overrated "Robberies",Ya'll...List em,Discuss em... REED
There are people on here who won't give Jerbum Taylor any credit for beating Borenard twice when the guy gave away 6-7 rounds in each fight not throwing any punches. So I'd have to say these two fights jump up the list as being overrated in terms of robberies.
Floyd - Castillo 1 People were brainwashed by Lederman's RIDICULOUS scorecard. Floyd won rounds 1-4,8,10 and 11..at the very least.
Depends on your definition of robbery. Any fight thats decided upon the final round, like Ford giving the 12th to Taylor, is a bonafide robbery and fix, as far as I'm concerned.
.... A robbery to me is when I give a guy every benefit of the doubt and still have him losing. That pretty much disqualifies both Hopkins-Taylor fights.
No. Fraud - Castillo 2,..:nono: OFCOURSE. :eeeek: Fraud - Castillo 1 was a DISGUSTING ROBBERY!!,.. hence the reason they rematched!!!,.. anyway back to the original point,..:nono: :dunno: Castillo just idoled far too long before chasing him down and applying his superiority late, but by then he had allowed Fraud to literally run away with the fight. It's his own fault...that's why Fraud - Castillo 2 is an overrated "robbery".
Ali-Norton III Kenny did dominate....for 7 rounds. He won his rounds bigger than Ali won his, but a won round is a won round. And 8 shaded rounds will always beat 7 dominant rounds. Collazo-Hatton. Close fight, Hatton was the champ, and you have to BEAT the champ. Plus Hatton scored only KD which shaded it for him in the end. Collazo finished strong but thats not always enuff. As great as he looked in the 12th, he did lose the 11th, and they all count. Foreman-Briggs People combine Briggs own disbelief and their hero-worship of George to give themselves the impression that George won. He didn't. As bad as Briggs looked, the fact that a younger fitter man doesn't dominate the older fat guy doesn't mean that he didn't win. You can't strip a guy of the W just cos he didn't look as good as he was supposed to: and Briggs landed the cleaner shots and finished stronger. Just cos Briggs thought he fucked up doesn't count for shit. Like I said, a bad performance can still be a winning one, even if Briggs didn't grasp that.
I've never seen Toney-Tiberi. From every account i've heard/read Toney was given a "gift" to put it mildly. What's the story with that fight?
Damn....I actually thought it was vacant, as it happens, and what I meant was bigger name anyways. I thought the belt was vacant.
It seem most so-called robberies aren't really robberies. People just like to call something a robbery when they don't agree with the decision, often when the fight is very close and can go either way.
Hatton has never been the face first mug you make him out to be...he is as big a brawler as pac, but has visited the mat less often.
NOPE... Collazo was the REIGNING Champ & YOU just SHITTED On YOURSELF when U Got High & Mighty Saying "U have to TAKE it from the Champ.":: ...Hatton Most Certainly DID NOT Do that,but REED is Sure U'll Now GLADLY Recant that Statement,since it DOESN'T Favor Little Ricky... No Go WIPE your Ass & Conjure Up some DAMAGE Control,Adolph... REED:clap:
DLH-Trinidad DLH-Whitaker DLH-Mosley 2 Mayweather-Castillo 1 Ali-Jones Taylor-Hopkins 1-2 All overrated "robberies". Oh, and Jones-Tarver 1. People calling them a "robbery" or "highly controversial" is laughable. Tarver wasted so many rounds standing in the middle of the ring doing nothing, leary of Roy's bodywork, and being too damn patient.
REED Thinks DeLa-Tito WAS a "Robbery"...Honestly,DeLa DIDN'T NEED the Rounds that he Ran in... REED Watched that Fight LOATHING DeLa & PRAYING that Tito Beat him...But after the 12th Round,it was OBVIOUS to REED that DeLa had Won... agREED on all the Rest,Particularly DeLa-Whittaker...NOBODY Deserved to Win that Fight N REED's Opinion...When U Score a Bout a DRAW,it's NOT a "Robbery" Either Way...REED Scored that Fight EVEN... REED
I already said I made a mistake. But Reed won't let it go.:dunno: And the irony of it is, that when Hatton splits Floyds vertebrae, Reed won't come back here for fear people will badger the shit out of him like when Jones got spread by Tarver. And he wonders why that is.......
Does this Mean YOU ACCEPT REED's Sig Bet CHALLENGE that YOU NEGLECTED to Respond 2???... N Addition to Pavlik-Taylor,let's Sig Bet Floyd-Hatton...Unless U're ALL TALK,as REED Suspects U R... REED ps. "you have to BEAT the Champ":laughing: :laughing:
What Sig Bet, apart from Pavlik, did you request on? And fucko, I don't troll thru threads looking for challenges. PM someone if you want their attention. I already agreed to a Pavlik-Taylor sig bet.:dunno:
REED COULDN'T Care Less about or For your Attention...It's your SIG that REED is Interested N... On the Thread STATING that Floyd & Hatton were just about Signed,REED Asked YOU if U were Interested N a Floyd-Hatton Sig Bet...Obviously,REED has Floyd & U have Casper... PUT Up,NUT Up or SHUT Up...U have Options... REED