Pac vs. Bradley close to being done

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    Manny's Definitely Gotta Find his PRE-Mosley, PRE-Marquez III Form, to Beat Bradley...It's a Safe Bet that he WILL...



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    If Manny turns up looking tepid like his recent 2 fights, not really willing to go balls out to secure the win, he loses. Bradley is a very solid, very determined little fighter. Won't be an easy fight at all.

    I guess things didn't turn out that badly. Cotto takes less of a beating Vs Floyd, and presumably a bigger payday, and we actually get an interesting fight in Pacquiao Vs Bradley.
     
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    Manny took it easy on Mosley and Margarito, and Bradley is not even close to as good defensively as JMM. He's also not a great counter puncher like JMM. Bradley is right there in front of you and gets hit a lot.
     
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    Always fancied this fight. If Floyd won't dance this is the next best option, especially if it's at 140 where both men belong.:Thumbs:
     
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    It will not be at 140. Bradley will move up to 147.
     
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    Yep, but stupidly it's at welter. Hopefully they both come in at 140ish.

    It would be bad for Bradley to try and bulk up a bit. He's quicker than most of Manny's recent opponents, he wouldn't want to lose any speed.
     
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    i see a competitive fight that could be difficult to score. clash of heads is also in order.
     
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    Bradley fights always have head clashes.
     
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    This fight's going to be ugly. There's some in the press who like to paint Bradley as a defensive cutey, but those of us who have seen him fight know that's not the case. Rather, Bradley is an aggressive fighter who likes to get close and throw with his head down. Normally, this makes things uncomfortable for his opponents who become distracted by the possibility of getting head-butted, lose focus, and thus, rounds. The punishment, physical and mental, piles up and things become easier and easier for Bradley.

    Pacquiao's challenge will be for space necessary to get his offense going. This fight could end up looking like Pacquiao's fight with the Dominican dirty man (now deceased).
     
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    This fight will end early thanks to unintentional headbutts.
     
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    Wow, and only three weeks ago it seemed all but certain that Cotto was going to fight Pac.

    So thats two sets of negotiations that got done in the space of three weeks? Pac vs Omar Bradley and Floyd vs Cotto El Shotto?

    Wow. Fuck me. Thats fast. Thats very fast.
     
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    Just means neither man has to cut weight, I guess. Both guys will weigh the same in the ring, Id imagine. Would be more 'significant' at 140 though
     
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    And when Manny has taken this guy apart and dropped him a few times, thats exactly what the opinion is going to be around here...that Bradley is slow, face-first, and has a rudimentary punch.

    That said- Pacquaio deserves no credit if he drags Bradley up to 147 against Bradleys better judgment.

    I have no time for these weight-bullies. Bradley debuted at 143 per boxrec, I say thats a good weight and would be in keeping with this catch-weight BS that boxing has become noted for recently.
     
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    As long as whatever the agreed weight is does not overly benefit or hinder either man, a good fair weight, let them have at it. I think Bradley isn't any better at the Clottey game than Clottey, if he comes to fight, unlike Clottey, he'll get dropped and cut en route to a unanimous decision loss or late stoppage.
     
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    Bradley has talked about moving up for a while now and has even had a fight at 147 to test the waters. Besides that, he can come in anywhere from 141-147 where ever he feels comfortable.

    This fight is just as good as Mayweather vs Hatton was and he shouldn't get any less credit if he wins.
     
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    Yeah, I dont think it's a tangible factor, beyond the fight having more sheen at 140. 147 opens the door for talk of Bradley not belonging at 'the weight', despite Pac weighing less than most junior welters in the ring either way.
     
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    Bradley has fought at WW before, and he didn't damn near lose like Hatton. Actually he's fought over 140 more than a few times in his career.
     
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    Pac better not sleep on Bradley. I think this fight is competitive.
     
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    It's a good fight, I don't see how anyone can say otherwise.
     
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    he never fought any opponents as good as the two hatton fought either. hatton fought over 140 coming up as well, big fucking deal

    bradley is an excellent opponent for pacquiao.
     
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    Hatton was a better fighter than Bradley... and Collazo better than Abregu.
     
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    Agreed. I really like the fight.
     
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    Although Bradley is risky for a big fight. You have to figure a Bradley fight is at least twice as likely as any other possible bout to stop after two rounds because of butts.
     
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    That's up for debate. Hatton looked more vulnerable in more fights than Bradley has. He's basically never stuggled really. He's not great, but neither was Hatton. He's just very solid.
     
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    I was going to say that, I felt you might wade in and disagree.....however, Bradley might be more effective at 147 than Hatton was at 145/147/Welter..but not enough to close the gap.

    Bradley has a respectable resume, the biggest knock against him is not his competition, its the manner of his wins.

    ....but the key here is how comfortable Timmy feels at whatever the agreed weight is. He debuted at 143, went as high as 147 and 149 I believe, and went as low as 139.. but the preponderance of his stuff is at 140, 141 or so.
     
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    Sure. But since Floyd weighed 148 against Hatton and Pac might weigh even less than that against Bradley I dont give a shit how either handled 160lb 'welterweights'. It's irrelevant.
     
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    Exactly. That's all that matters.

    My point was that the fight being at 147 doesn't really make a difference. Pac and Bradley are similar sized guys, and both will probably come in well under the limit.
     
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    It is, I agree. People are talking about Pac "Dragging Bradley up to WW" though.
     

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