Pac vs. Margarito Nov 13 in Mexico?

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Anthony, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    24,786
    Likes Received:
    6,011
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Motherfucker
    Location:
    -49.330540, 68.950885
    Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum is planning on a trip to Monterrey, the Mexican city being eyed to host Manny Pacquiao’s Nov. 13 fight with Antonio Margarito. Arum, chilling out in his Los Angeles vacation home, said Pacquiao’s adviser Mike Koncz would also make the trip there as they explore the possibilities of staging Pacquiao’s bout there. The decision to visit Monterrey was arrived at Monday as Arum began holding talks with prospective Pacquiao opponents: Puerto Rican Miguel Cotto and the Mexican Margarito.
    Regarding the press statement that Floyd Mayweather issued on Monday, Arum could not help but blow his top. <!--more-->
    A press statement was issued by Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe, denying that a negotiation for a fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather ever took place.
    “Here are the facts. Al Haymon, (Golden Boy Promotions CEO) Richard Schaefer and myself speak to each other on a regular basis and the truth is no negotiations have ever taken place nor was there ever a deal agreed upon by Team Mayweather or Floyd Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao on Nov. 13,†said Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe.
    “Either (HBO Sports president) Ross Greenburg or Bob Arum is not telling the truth, but history tells us who is lying,†added Ellerbe in the statement.
    Arum had set a July 16 deadline for Mayweather to respond, something Mayweather totally ignored. A day after the ultimatum lapsed, Mayweather told the Associated Press that he was not interested in fighting this year.
    Arum said he was in constant touch with Greenburg regarding supposed negotiations that took place the past several weeks and wondered why would Ellerbe say that since there was even a gag order in place.
    Even GBP owner Oscar De La Hoya was interviewed by a Spanish-language TV station a few weeks ago, saying a deal was close to being sealed.
    What Arum has learned from this incident is that it’s a lot easier dealing with his arch-nemesis Don King than “these guys.â€
    “I feel like I am (like) in (an episode of) Twilight Zone. Don is normal compared to these guys,†said Arum.

    http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/manny-pacquiao-update-2-53648#more-53648
     
  2. Bob N Weave

    Bob N Weave Guest

    Why the he'll is Margacheato even in consideration? He should be dead to boxing. We all saw how good he is without cheating. What a joke.
     
  3. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    30,692
    Likes Received:
    4
    Disgusting.

    But damn... if Marg has anything left this could be an amazing fight. :lol:
     
  4. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    3,246
    Likes Received:
    0
    Arum is a degenerate and so is Pac for accepting this fight.
     
  5. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    30,692
    Likes Received:
    4
    I'm one of the few who doesn't think Margarito was cheating pre-Mosley... but I support his banishment in the USA. It's just so fucking scummy to hold this fight in Mexico. It stinks all around.
     
  6. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,235
    Likes Received:
    5,116
    Same thoughts here. Margarito is a live dog, especially in Mexico but this fight shouldn't be taking place.
     
  7. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2002
    Messages:
    33,783
    Likes Received:
    1,365
    Mexico?? Will Margarito come in with his special wraps??....even then i still don't think he can beat Pacquiao.....Margarito will be a punching bag...:partie:
     
  8. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,235
    Likes Received:
    5,116
    That's what everybody's hoping. However Margarito has a solid chin and is a much bigger guy than Pacquiao.

    This is a stupid fight for Manny to take on many levels.
     
  9. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    107,343
    Likes Received:
    7,992
    Location:
    In The Trenches With My Boy Sepp
    Home Page:
    He's too slow Steve. Margacheato is just too slow.
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    70,344
    Likes Received:
    5,868
    Occupation:
    Involved in hyperbole
    Location:
    Interzone
    Maragrito is DANGEROUS for Manny. Tony ain't a cover and counter guy like Clottey who'll put the shutters up while Manny throws his volume flurries then respond once Manny's lightning feet have him 2 yards away. Tony's gonna be leading aggressively at the same time manny is and he's gonna be walking down that ring and imposing a physicality on manny that he's never come close to experiencing before. There were moments early on when Cotto looked every inch the two divisions naturally bigger guy, only to be dented by Manny's power and lose momentum. Tony pulled that trick on COTTO and I strongly question whether Manny will be able to shift momentum so easily when his left cross lands on Tony.

    Manny will and probably should be favourite, but this is Arum looking out for Arum signing this shit, to the risk of Manny's career. At the odds bookies will probably give on this I'll stick a tenner on Tony. Manny should tell Arum to suck his own wrinkly jewish balls and go fight Bradley or something at 140.
     
  11. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    3,246
    Likes Received:
    0
    I just get the impression that Magarito is no big threat to Manny. Margarito's pressure is only effective when his punches hurt and they don't without the plaster as seen in his last two fights. Antonio will also have a hard time making weight probably. This is Arum going for one last big payday out of Margarito before he shuts him down because he'll never get his license in the US again.
     
  12. Damien

    Damien Undisputed Champion

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2006
    Messages:
    2,397
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Virginia
    Since the fight will probably be at 154 for the vacant WBC title; Margarito will most likely weigh close to 175 on fight night and have a huge size advantage. Despite Margarito's lack of defense, this is a dangerous fight and not a good option at all for Pac.
     
  13. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    24,786
    Likes Received:
    6,011
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Motherfucker
    Location:
    -49.330540, 68.950885
    easy fight for pac
     
  14. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2004
    Messages:
    15,205
    Likes Received:
    1,099
    Gender:
    Male
    Like most iron chinned Mexicans, Margarito is soft in the gut. This is something Mosley learned a long time ago which is why he was such a devastating body puncher. The key to beating those iron chinned vatos is to hit the body.

    Pac's going to destroy him either way.
     
  15. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    24,786
    Likes Received:
    6,011
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Motherfucker
    Location:
    -49.330540, 68.950885
    All the floyd nutticks want pac to lose. They just wont admit it.
     
  16. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    30,692
    Likes Received:
    4
    Even to Margarito?
     
  17. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2004
    Messages:
    33,385
    Likes Received:
    439
    Yep!
     
  18. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2003
    Messages:
    7,625
    Likes Received:
    2
    Occupation:
    None of your business
    Location:
    Allentown Pa
    This fight wont happen. It's high risk LOW REWARD. If Pac fights the wrong fight he maybe in a world of trouble against this Iron Chinned cheater. Pac can do much better fighting Cotto and going for his 8th title @154.
     
  19. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,235
    Likes Received:
    5,116
    No way it happens @ 154.

    What they should do is make the fight in the Phillipines instead of Mexico. Have a huge ring, a catchweight of 142 and make Margarito wear 22 oz gloves.

    If Margarito claims it's unfair they can sit and laugh at him.
     
  20. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2004
    Messages:
    33,385
    Likes Received:
    439
    Too bad for him then. Do you think we watch boxing because of the possibility of the unknown and to see drama, Hex? Or do we watch it to see the same old sh*t where a guy is supposed to win all the time? I want Pacman in a war where he gets his face smashed in, put on his ass a few times and needs to fight for his life to survive. Hell I want the same from Floyd where he meets his Joe Frazier and has his eyelids torn up, his face completely bloodied and his hands broken and still trying to find a way to win. That's what this sport needs. And it's lacking. Both Pacquiao and Floyd haven't really delivered the true drama in their fights. Everything's just been the same old sh*t. Same old boring decisions where the opponent is handpicked and doesn't put up much resistance and basically comes for a cheque and not much else.
     
  21. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,235
    Likes Received:
    5,116
    Did you miss Pacquiao's fights with Morales and Marquez?
     
  22. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2004
    Messages:
    33,385
    Likes Received:
    439
    Those were the old days when Pacquiao was coming up and had something to prove. Now, it's like all of his fights have to be safely matched up against the right opponents at the right time in order to preserve a mega fight with Mayweather. You want to see Pacquiao take safe fights so that nothing ruins the possibility of a Pac/Floyd fight. Not sure that's good for the sport.
     
  23. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,235
    Likes Received:
    5,116
    Neither the Cotto or the Hatton fights were considered "safe" before hand even though Manny was a favorite. Cotto tagged Pac more than a few times. It was a close fight after 5 rounds.

    Clottey was shit but he also wasn't remotely considered safe either.

    He just couldn't handle what was in front of him.

    Big difference than Mayweather-Marquez where only the dumbest people available picked JMM.
     
  24. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2004
    Messages:
    33,385
    Likes Received:
    439
    I'm responding to Hex's post where he said that Margarito is dangerous for Pacquiao and that Pacquiao should fight Cotto instead and go for an 8th title.
     
  25. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    37,200
    Likes Received:
    3,952
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism
    margarito seems like a probable foe for pacquaio based on trends. pacquiao of late tends to face name guys who were just removed from a vicious ass whipping.
     
  26. Pascals Wager

    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2003
    Messages:
    2,701
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm glad somebody sees this.
    Marg is A VERY dangerous fight for Manny due to his size, power & durability.
    Bad style match-up for Manny.
     
  27. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,235
    Likes Received:
    5,116
    Ah ok.

    Yeah the Cotto rematch would make no sense at all. The "title" @ 154 wouldn't mean shit other than as a trivia question in the future.

    Although Pac hasn't cherry picked opponents at welterweight it's not like there's nobody left. I think some of the guys at 140 would be better challenges as well.

    At the very least more interesting.
     
  28. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,235
    Likes Received:
    5,116
    If Arum wasn't Margarito's promoter this fight wouldn't have even been considered for a nano second.

    It's complete bullshit but that doesn't change the fact he's a dangerous opponent.

    Also Clottey also wasn't on the recent end of an ass whipping before facing Manny.
     
  29. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2004
    Messages:
    33,385
    Likes Received:
    439
    I'm not really dissatisfied with Pac/Floyd not happening. I don't really watch or support boxing anymore anyway. It's a laughable business more than a sport. Just carefully matched fights really. Times are changing and boxing is yesterday's sport. When this generation of fans die out along with the promoters Arum and King who are into their really late years and with Pac and Floyd into their 30s and near their end, the sport will be finally extinct. The stars are shot, retired and/or gone from the sport save a couple. It's all for the best. Nobody should shed a tear for this corrupt piece of sh*t farce of a business anyway. The sport is almost dead, thank goodness. Kids of today don't care about it, America doesn't care about it, it will be gone and done with fairly soon.
     
  30. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2002
    Messages:
    20,888
    Likes Received:
    9
    i wanna see pac-floyd.. but i'll watch this.

    i hope pac kos him and shits in his mouth
     

Share This Page