PBF vs Hatton @ 140

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    For all the excuse makers who wanna blame Hatton's loss on Floyd being "bigger", lets all do Ricky a favor. Lets say the fight happened at 140 back in 05, how do the results change? Answer..... they DONT! Floyd TKO 10 again!
     
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    hatton KO2.

    them 7 pounds can make a significant difference!
     
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    FACT, not fiction!
     
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    :lol:
     
  5. Xplosive

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    In fact it might have ended earlier than that back in 05. Floyd was faster at 140 than he is now, threw more combinations, and they'd be fighting with 8 oz gloves meaning more damage done to Hatton.

    I say the Mayweather that beat Gatti stops Hatton in 8.
     
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    word.
     
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    The extra weight makes a HUGE difference to Hatton, who can't rely on his extra strength and power at the bigger weight, and nor does he suffer the stamina problem he does when carrying more lb's.

    The Hatton who stopped Tszyu gives any and all 140lbers a very tough night- moving up takes away all of Hatton's natural abilities and skills and renders him a different fighter completely...

    That said, on the evidence of Saturday, I couldn't pick Ricky to beat Floyd at ANY weight, not even at 140lb, so effective was Floyd at negating Hatton's style and method. But the fight would be a helluva lot more competitive IMO.

    Mayweather UD Hatton (by 2-4 rounds)

    MTF :popcorn:
     
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    Nah...I was Watching Hatton vs Tzsyu again just recently and it was the same Hatton that fought Mayweather..his head was up in the air as he moved in and he was open to crisp counters.

    Floyd would have stopped him without a doubt.
     
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    if Floyd walks around at 147, weighs in at 147, and is 147 on fight night...i dont think he'd have much trouble making 140 these days :dunno:


    fight may as well have been at 140
     
  10. TKO

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    I agree, that small step up makes a massive difference to Ricky, but I agree I couldn't pick Hatton to win after last weeks fight.

    But make no mistake the fatman would be more competitive at 140.
     
  11. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    Floyd IMO is getting lazy.. less combos.. taking off rounds..

    I think had this fight happened at 140.. Hatton would have been stopped by th 5th
     
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    Of course it might have been at 140 but then where is Floyd's advantage? One he usually desperatly needs in his big fights..
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Its not lazy, its called getting older! Mayweather aint a spring chicken anymore. He's 30. He isnt throwing combos, or being as active as he once was cause he's SLIGHTLY past his prime.
     
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    I was just talking about this with somone yesterday..

    it's not like FLoyd is OLD.. he's what ? 30?



     
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    Yo guys ararious, Flod lands a hard ass left hook while Hatton was punching and kncks him down, and you all think that he would do the same thing everytime everyime they fight, you guys are hilarious.
    Floyd beats Hatton at 140 as well but by decision.
    And if they fight again Floyd by only decision.
    Its lik saying Lewis would KO Vitali everytime on cuts just because he cut once against him, you guys are frickn hilarious.
     
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    YOU are the one crazy..

    you think Floyd got lucky? :lol:

     
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    As LOK said....you are crazy! Floyd stops Hatton every day of the week and twice on sundays...
     
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    He didn't get lucky, he would beat Hatton no matter what, but to say he would stop him every time is just fuckin stupid, he got caught leaping in, could happen to anybody, then he was still hurt..it happens, if that hadn't have hppened he most ikely would have went the distance...iuts just funny how just because it happene once everyone thinks it owuld happen eeytime, so hilarious.
     
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    Who else has stopped Hatton at 140?

    Stop being silly Sly: Hatton probably loses to PBF at 140 and might well be stopped, but to say PBF definately does what Tszyu, Castillo et al couldn't is nuts.

    Hatton is a different beast at 140- stronger, quicker, harder to hit and doesn't blow out of his ass after 6 rounds. If PBF was so sure of beating Hatton at 140, he would have fought him at 140... :nono:

    MTF
     
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    Who did Hatton fight at 140 on Floyd's level? The fight COULDA happened at 140, but Hatton and his people wanted no parts of it back then. They wanted to build up Ricky's name before they fed him to Floyd to lose. It certainly wasnt Floyd's fault the fight never happened at 140.

    And just because old ass Tszyu, and Castillo couldnt stop him, doesnt mean Floyd couldnt. Floyd is alot better, and quicker than either one of those guys, and isnt washed up.

    And Hatton maybe be quicker at 140, but so is Floyd! And Hatton harder to hit at 140? Gimme a fuckin break! Maussa had no trouble hitting Hatton for Christ sake! Ricky's defense is crap at ANY weight. It always has been, and it always will be. And Hatton blew his load cause he couldnt hit Floyd! When you miss with punches it takes more outta you. Plus Floyd punished his body, which is something nobody before Floyd did to Hatton.

    Stop living in denial, and stop making excuses for Ricky. He didnt lose to Floyd cause he was too small, he lost cause he isnt as good as Floyd. Period!

    Floyd whups his ass 10 times outta 10, and stops him 7 times outta 10.
     
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    Who's making excuses? :dunno:

    I already said in this thread that I can't see Hatton beating PBF at any weight after what happened. I'm not saying that Hatton can beat Floyd, because even at 140, I don't think he can, nor am I saying Hatton is too small (where did I say this?) and EVERYWHERE I have accepted that Floyd is better...

    ...but I am CERTAIN it would be a lot more competitive at 140. If you can't see that Hatton is a completely different fighter at 140, then you are blind. Hatton is a WORLD CLASS junior Welter who cannot fight at Welter because it removes his natural abilities. The fact that Floyd walked through him at 147 is not a fair indication of what happens at 140. :nono:

    Would Floyd win? probably- 95 times or so out of 100 I'd accept.

    Does Floyd KO Hatton every time they fight at 140 as Slystaff said he would? Does he fuck. Even you said he would '7 times out of ten'. And that was the point of my post, was it not? :dunno:

    MTF

    P.S To note the point you highlighted in your original post- sure, Hatton may not have fought anyone of Floyd's quality at 140 (though plenty would argue that Tszyu and perhaps Castillo were not far away), but he has never even remotely looked like being stopped at this weight in 42 fights. In his 2 fights at 147, however, Collazo was 30 seconds from KOing Rocky and then Floyd did.

    I reiterate; different beats at a different weight
     
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    I think FLoyd stops him everytime..

    Floyd figures guys out and breaks them down.. Hatton can not handle floyd and I don't see how that differs if they'd fight 10 times.. I actually thing each time it gets easier for Floyd
     
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    I think Brits (and especially the media) need to take a long look at the boxers they hype up, year after year.
    Currently: David Haye, Junior Witter, Enzo Macranelli, Alex Arthur, Amir Khan - all these guys are being sold as potential champions at their weight-divisions.
    I guarantee you that as soon as ALL of these step up and fight Top5, prime, none-shot opposition...they'll all lose.
     
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    Haye already beat the universally recognized #1 of his division:dunno:
     
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    Chinny, look-at-me-pretty boy who fights in the 'Division of The Dead' and will be dead when he first fights at heavyweight.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He actually has fought at heavyweight (won by first round KO) and why the hell should he fight there while he rules his own division?
     
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    Yep. It just meant that Fatass Fatton didn't have to cut as much weight. The weight doesn't mean shit because Floyd is a blown up 140lber himself.
     
  28. meetthefeebles

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    :dunno: WTF?

    Witter is being hyped by NO-ONE bar his online reaming buddy Attraction, Enzo is being hyped by no-one bar Warren and Enzo Calzaghe and Alex Arthur is so 'well hyped' that almost no-one knows who the hell he is (in the UK or elsewhere).

    David Haye is the undisputed champion of his weight class, having beaten the champion in his own back yard. Which Top 5 fighter do you want to see him face? Who are the other cruiser champs? Errr, Cunningham and...erm, Enzo Macranelli :lol:

    The ONLY one of these you have a valid point with is Amir Khan, who is nowhere near ready for anything world class, and is majorly over-hyped, BUT he may also, in fact, be the business in the future.

    Strange post Mustard...
     

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