Peterson Trainer Discussing Khan's Flaws

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  1. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    They scouted Khan perfectly and made the proper in-fight adjustment...what "adjustments" did Khan make.

    What does this say about what Roach has taught Khan?


    “We were going to box Amir early on, which Lamont can do, and bring him war under the sky,†explained Hunter, “but somewhere in that fight, he started to abandon his jab and it was déjà vu of the [Timothy] Bradley fight and so when he came back to the corner and I saw that he was in that mode, instantly, I made the adjustment. I told him that Amir, his offense is his defense. He’s very, very good throwing volumes of punches coming forward but he has to separate from you before he can do that. If you get within two feet or a foot of him, he has difficultly. He’ll fight to get back on the outside. He has deficiencies on his inside craft and circle-motion. He’s great at that, beautiful foot movement, but he has problems going backwards. So all these things we exploited and Lamont forced him into a fight he was not comfortable with. He’s not used to not being in control, so we had to put doubt in his mind and we did that.â€
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Again, I just don't think you can blame Roach for that.

    Khan is just a dumb, limited fighter, no amount of training is going to change that. He has an incredibly low ring IQ, and makes do with exceptional handspeed, range, workrate.
     
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    Yes and no. It looked as though Khan knew nothing about in fighting.

    I'd be curious to see what the line of excuses are.
     
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    I think it's a little silly, in light of the Madaina fight, for anyone to act like it was a secret that Khan can be pressued against the ropes without repercussion.

    In this fight, as in the Madaina fight, Khan did in fact defend (illegally) on the inside - by pushing, holding and pushing down.

    As long as the rules are enforced, amateur point-catching time-keepers like Khan will be quickly weeded out of this sport. As it is, referees seem all too willing to allow his brand of amateurism to prevail (excepting Saturday), while true pros are left scratching their heads.
     
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    Khan didn't like it when Peterson was coming in, head down.
     
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    yeah but that's bull-shit - khan thinks he had his head down simply because he is taller than Peterson (and most other 140 pounders). by his definition, everyone he fights comes in with his head down. that doesn't give him permission to push the head down. what khan needs to do is be a fucking professional and learn how to deal with a shorter fighter without breaking the rules. he could start by watching Rodriguez/Wolak II, in which Rodriguez learned from his mistakes in the first fight, and turned things around by fighting inside successfully.
     
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    Ironically, the only 20 seconds of the fight where he didn't look literally helpless inside was when he threw together an impromtu Mayweather shoulder roll stance. Im guessing Freddie didn't teach him that.
     
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    I reckon Khan 'switching' and going to the dark side might be the best thing for him actually. I have the feeling Mayweather style would work well for him
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    With all his limitations Khan will beat Peterson ass in a rematch....
     
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    The Mayweather style requires thinking and impeccable timing, neither of which Khan is capable of.

    I honestly think he's best sticking with Roach, I can't see Khan ever being an infighter, or ever having legit defense.

    Even Manny, a 100% offensive fighter, is much harder to hit than Khan.
     
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    More like get by him with a little home cooking.

    It'll be a similar fight. But Khan will get the benefit of the doubt this time.
     
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    I'm not so sure. If the referee lets him push and hold all he wants, then yes. If not? Consider he won't have the knock-down, and Peterson will have seen Khan's strategy for what it is - pitty-patt his way to a decision win.

    That push-the-head-down-throw-to-the-liver combination that Khan has worked could really make the difference though, you never know.

    Plus, you have to figure, whether Khan pushes or not, he won't be docked two points in the rematch. For his sake, let's hope that isn't the net of the adjustments he makes, although to listen to him, that's all that stood in the way of his winning.
     
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    I don't know about beating his ass... but yeah, if Khan gets his running game going, I can see him winning eight or nine rounds in the rematch.
     
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    Come to think of it he did wear the colours..
     
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    The rematch won't be much different from Mayweather vs Castillo II.

    Floyd fought an extremely negative fight and stayed as far away from Castillo as possible.

    The only difference, Khan isn't as talented as floyd and in spots will flat out run.

    Either that or Oscar will coach him on how to survive like the las four rounds of his trindad fight
     
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    Yea, Khan could actually try and fight inside, instead of falling back on the ropes, pushing or running away. He could try throwing hooks, circling and get his opponent on the ropes?
     
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    To be a great technician, a great mechanic like Mayweather requires years of practice and study. you have to really know the game... it is a pro's style, an old-school style... Floyd does a lot of the things that Georgie Benton, Archie Moore, Joe Brown, Kid Gavilan, guys like that did, when you add that mastery of the skills of the game and the craft with Floyd's natural talent, his quickness, his reflexes, his good feet, that's how you get a great fighter... Khan is too far gone to ever be able to do that, he's not a 13 year old who just wandered into the gym... you could teach him to shorten his punches and use them when a guy gets close, make some adjustments in his defense so he isn't running straight back from pressure, but you could never teach a guy at his age, this long into the game, the kinds of tricks of the trade that a real craftsman like Floyd Mayweather or a James Toney knows... those guys studied the game hard
     

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