Post fight press conference. Carwin In the hospital. LIVE RIGHT NOW

Why is Carwin in the hospital?

 

maybe the triangle lock fucked up his neck. brock does have some seriously big arms, not to mention his strength.

 

Well FUCK! I can't seem to access the archive....oh well. I'm off to bed.

 

And that triangle was far more about power than technique. ::

 

Brock really did look like shit though. He better thank his lucky stars thast Carwin gassed. Anyone else that would have paced themselves would have finished him.

 

Godfather with him being champ after 4 fights or whatever it was. Do you think hes some sort of phenom or the heavyweight division is just weak as piss?

 

The UFC Heavyweight division is as strong as it's ever been.

I lean more toward Brock being a phenom. He's an incredible athlete for a 265 pound guy. Also, in all honesty, his amazing wrestling background makes him a far more dangerous fighter than most guys with 5 MMA fights.

Say what you want about Carwin's experience, but his brutal and quick wins over Gonzaga and Mir were impressive by any standards. He was deserving to be where he was, but just wasn't ready for someone that could withstand his onslaught. Brock did. And again, remember, those are punches from Carwin that put guys like Gonzaga and Mir to sleep.

 

Anyone else wouldn't have badly hurt Lesnar with those punches. Theres a cost for being that powerful and large and punching that hard. If that had been Cain, he would've never had Lesnar in that situation in the first place, but he would've have cardio forever, so go figure.

 

Wrestle in what fashion? BJ Penn, Silva and Machida as well as Shogun are world class without wrestling. Unless you count TDD as wrestling?

 

BJ also fought for a title in his 4th fight, based on his BJJ background. He lost though.

 

Cheers for the opinions GF and Trp.

I really think Cain will be too much for Brock. I look forward to the fight.

 

false. if cain shows the stand up skills and speed of combination/punches he did against shot nog, then brock is fucked.

his standup will always suck and speed kills. he'll not see the punches coming.

 

I disagree. His standup looked decent against Nog because he is a shot zombie. You remember the Congo fight right? Cain does not have good stand up. If Carwin can't hurt Brock, no way in hell Cain can. Brock is waaay to quick/powerful and his wrestling is way better. I think Brock mauls him.

 

Yeah, but MMA was supposed to have evolved between then and now.

 

It has evolved somewhat, but this is a relatively young sport of 17 years. It has a number of different elements, and each of them takes quite some time to learn effectively.

 

I agree with you. Many would have had you believe, especially before Brock, that it was further along in its evolution than it was. That's all I've been saying.

 

I can read your deleted posts, Bob. ::

 

Your backpeddling prevented it from being posted.

 

Frank Mir knocked out Nog easily and Mir has never been anything more than mediocre standing. Nog is shot and Cain was able to hit him with flush shots.

I like Cain, but Carwin just has raw Foreman like heavy hands. And if he couldn't stop Brock, Cain will have a very tough time. Cain also doesn't have the size to keep Brock off him like Carwin did in the first round.

It's a good fight and a great matchup. I can't wait again.

 

Cain looked worried there. His face said it all as he watched. He saw that Brock is coming along quickly, and that worries him.

 

There's something a bit iffy and uncomfortable-looking about JDS as well...I seem to remember seeing something I didn't like when he fought Gonzaga. I'm not sure he beats Brock. He might not have the wrestling capability or takedown defense at this point. His standup is excellent, but can he get out from under Brock if Brock takes him down.