Povetkin's Team Want Klitschko To Pass WADA Drug Tests

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  1. KaukipRrr

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    Povetkin's Team Want Klitschko To Pass WADA Drug Tests

    By Andrey Krikunov

    The negotiations between IBF/WBO/IBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko and official IBF title contender Alexander Povetkin are going to be interesting because the manager of the Russian boxer, Wladimir Hryunov, has already made a statement about both fighters having to go through doping tests before the bout.

    “The meeting between the managing director of the promotional company Sauerland Event Chris Meyer and the adviser of the Klitschko brothers Shelly Finkel was scheduled for the last week. But the negotiations didn’t take placeâ€, - told Hryunov to Gazeta.Ru.

    “The reasons of disagreement in the organization of the bout for the most part lies in the technical side of things. The thing is, Povetkin signed a declaration, which binds him to pass doping tests according to the WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency) rules. We insist that team Klitschko also keep to the terms of this declaration. And for the moment this is the main questionâ€.

    Earlier Klitschko’s manager Berndt Boente has declared that Wladimir is ready to meet Povetkin “after the summer breakâ€, but overall was rather skeptical. “I think that Sauerland don’t want Povetkin to fight Klitschko now," - he said to Sportbox.ru. – “Apparently they understand that their boxer doesn’t stand a chance in this bout and are looking for a way to gain more time and give him an opportunity to prepare betterâ€.

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    :crafty: ,.. Good,.. spread the word, spread the word,...
     
  2. Bob N Weave

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    Here we go again....:bangh:
     
  3. KaukipRrr

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    I think it's great, I mean yes, Povetkin and his management have exhibited behaviour of not wanting to go through with this mandatory shot before, but I like this 'pressure spotlight' that the fighters reiping the most rewards in boxing are beginning to recieve, if they were Olympians or cyclists they would be fucken FORCED to prove that they're suceeding with thier natural abilities,..but in this case, we know that the Klitschko's are not going to recieve groupiesm favors from American sportswriters the way Manny Pacquiao did,.. they are much more universally resented,...

    Feel the pressure Wlad, feel the pressure, give in,.. and then uphold this clause, if not,...... it's "questions" time,.. :crafty:
     
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    REED SMELLS Teddy Atlas Behind All of this...



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  5. KaukipRrr

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    Well let's just wait and see what Wlad has to say about it first,.. if he agrees, and then Povetkin still refuses to fight him then, we'll clearly know what this is all about,.. however if Wlad refuses and comes up with the same load of horseshit team Pedquiao and Arum did,.. QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS... glorious QUESTIONS,... :crafty:
     
  6. Outlander

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    Without a doubt. There is no way in hell Povetkin came up with this on his own. This is, however, as predicted. Well as predicted by me, anyway. Given the lax testing standards right now in boxing which allow essentially unhindered PED use, the chant for USADA or WADA testing will grow louder and more frequent by the day. Are you a "phenomenon" at your weight? A "fixture" in the sport? Are you accomplishing "unparalleled" things in boxing? Or perhaps you've quickly "improved" from a beatable yet game contender to all time great?

    Well then get ready! Because your next mandatory has a surprise for you! You might actually have to prove you're not a cheat for the first time! I know, I know, Manny Pac fans, it's outrageous. Ghastly and unconscionable. Why won't they just shut up? If I close my eyes tight enough.. why don't they just go away!?! IF THESE CLEAN ATHLETE LUNATICS GET THEIR WAY, THEY ARE GOING TO RUIN THE SPORT!

    Well, on the bright side for you staunch supporters of "there must already be proof of cheating before we can dare to ask someone to take a test to prove whether or not they are cheating" - your guys can always (a) retire or (b) sink back into the soft, warm corruption boxing still offers for some time to come. Who knows? Maybe you can spend enough of your time and hard earned money and kill off this contemptuous movement to clean up your sport.
     
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    This is silly. People are beginning to make their own doping rules. Either everybody should be happy with the rules the commission give and play with them or then the rules should be changed, but one team can not tell the other these demands.

    And btw I am positive that both Klitshkos are on roids. And since there are no rules against it (or, I should say, the rules are not enforced) why wouldn't they or anybody else be?
     
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    When it comes to testing for banned substances, the commissions are proven to be way behind and their tests should not be trusted. I understand your point, but something must be done about it, and it has to start with the boxers themselves demanding more rigid testing to be implemented without regard of where they're fighting.
     
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    Which commission are you referring to?.. Texas?.. how's that for boxing commission 'integrity'?...there's your reflection of how well they work with scheming promoters. There's nothing silly or annoying about advocating in favor for the strongest possible testing, fighters who want a clean fight are simply entitled to it.
     
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    You guys should get a room...
     
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    I'm an Outlander groupie when it comes to the issue of advanced random drug tests, it's nice to worship a hero who doesn't indulge in corruption, you know what I mean?.. [​IMG] bet he's got smooth eyebrows too.
     
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  15. KaukipRrr

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    Learn what? That a small minority of conclusion jumping characters have fallen squarely for the bullshit sprayed by the delightful Mayweather?

    Look, I like Outlander as a poster. He's articulate and he generally knows his shit. But his tirades on this topic are becoming tiresome in the extreme, because they are STILL full of speculation and are now tinged with outright arrogance.

    Show me a single person who defended Pacquiao who DOESN'T think that improved drug testing should be implemented . Just one person, that is all. Everyone who thinks Pacquiao gets the benefit of the doubt has also said that, if testing is as useless as is claimed (by forum posters and Victor Conte so far as I can tell) then it should be changed immediately across the board by the sanctioning bodies and other regulatory organisations. Not at the whim of Roger Mayweather, who was obviously so concerned about his rule-abiding nephew fighting all these juiced up freaks that he waited, what fifteen years or so into his career before opening his fat, ill educated mouth about it... :laughing:

    No one here is condoning cheats, brother Kauki. What I would add is that if Pacquiao DOES retire any time soon then I would agree then that the circumstantial evidence would point heavily against him at that point. I retain an open mind.

    Something the Pacquiao accusers have long since abandoned, sadly for them.

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  17. ElTerriblee

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    I don´t see how everybody´s darling Wlad Klitschko, the saviour of dolphins and Unicef embassador could possibly refuse such a test for the good of the sport. :rolleyes:
     
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    Wlad will accept the conditions. He'll probably ask for a concession on the part of Povetkin, although I don't know what Povetkin can give him other than more money.

    I'd want Wlad tested, too. The way to beat Wlad is having his stamina fall apart and that is something that can be improved with PEDs.
     
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    Didn't those guys test positive before?
     
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    agREED.

    Should there be better testing? Yes...absolutely...these one off's...bullshit.

    I wouldn't say I know for certain both are on roids but we do know Vitali tested positive as an amateur so he certainly is suspect.
     
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    Question how do you know for sure that both Clits are on the juice. What is your source/proof? I'll Holla 5000
     
  22. Irish

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    Here is the thing.....the Pac drug furore started because {a} Mayweather is a cunt {b} Manny had gone, as pointed out, from relative nobody, decent champ all the way to superstardom in a short space of time and {c} he was turning down $40m by not taking the tests.

    Wlad on the other hand still displays some of his old weaknesses, has actually stepped down from an aggressive explosive fighter to a more measured combatant and will not be losing a fucking dime by avoiding Povetkin.
     
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    These boxers demanding testing are going about it all wrong. The one off testing shit is stupid. It needs to be changed accross the board, there needs to be a new standard of testing in boxing and EVERYONE needs to follow the same procedure. If these guys are doing this shit for the so called "Good of boxing" they need to start meeting with the comissions and get the fuckign rules changed. We don't need more bullshit preventing big fights from happening. Maybe the sanctioning bodies can make a rule that all title fights will be subject to USADA testing. I don't want to hear any bullshit about how anyone is doign anything for the good of the sport unless they are making an attempt to change the rules for everyone.

    With that said, Wlad should tell Povetkin to shut his mouth, challengers dictate nothing to a champion. There is no way Povetkin can make this happen. He'll end up losing his ranking. Wlad won't agree, the fight will then go to purse bid and either Povetkin will fight under the actual rules that are in place or he won't. Simple as that. He can't force anything.
     
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  25. Irish

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    Yes but Klitschkos name is smeared regardless. All this despite the fact that Wlad had to slow down his style to make himself a better fighter. The guy has actually regressed in terms of his power, not advanced. I never liked Atlas and I like him even less now. Povetkin looked shit in his last fight too.
     
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    What I want to say is that I´m a hypocrite-

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    Well if this goes to purse bid, and Sauerland wins, the card will be fought under the Sauerland banner in Germany, where random testing has become mandatory. Then what? :dunno:
     
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    In what way? I never recommended Manny Pacquaio for castration at the hands of Mayweather in the first place.
     
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    I wonder will David Haye be so insistent upon demanding tests :lol: :devious:
     
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    The fighters need to eat now. They can't sit around and wait for some change across the board that may or may not happen. This type of demand is exactly the type of demand that IS reasonable. Wlad won't have to accept it, but I hope and expect that he will.

    Unlike that juice coward who hides behind every ridiculous excuse he can think of...
     

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