Pretentious Movies

David Lynch

 

Eyes Wide Shut

Clockwork Orange

2001


Yes, Kubrick.

 

Adaptation
The Life Aquatic

 

Adaptation was *****

 

Synedouche NY OTOH was pretentious. I cant even remember a thing about it, it went through my head like 10 pages of Hebrew.

 

yeh Kubrick and Lynch for sure


Donnie Darko


any movie where art fags love the movie purely because they couldnt understand it

 

well I liked it a lot, but many people think The Thin Red Line is very pretentious.

 

Nah, Malick is what Stanley Kubrick wishes he could have been.


Great camera style, but with visceral emotion and feeling attached to it. Most of Kubrick's stuff is just..............sterile. Looks great but completely uninvolving.

Malick's work is sort of hypnotic in the way it drags you in, if you are patient enough with it.

 

The Killing is a great movie, though.

 

Clockwork Orange is the biggest pretentious piece of wank I've ever seen.

Vanilla Sky is fucking awful and pretentious too. A "clever" film for stupid people, a bit like that retarded Inception.

The only Kubrick film I like is Full Metal Jacket. Hideously overrated director.

 

Any movie (sorry, "feelm") from France.

 

I kinda liked eyes wide shut, if only for the subject matter. and kidmans tits

 

That's how I felt about Barry Lyndon. Beautifully shot, great cinematography, but unbearably slow and basically just boring.

 

pretentious is more forgivable than formulaic as failings go in my book. music the same.

 

I don't deny that Kubrick was pretentious. However, I really enjoy large parts of 2001 not because I think it is all that deep, but because the presentation is almost unbearably eerie. It's one of the more terrifying films ever made because it is so strange LOOKING. The colors seem as if they aren't of this dimension, somehow too bright, too vivid. Even the sound has this dead, airless quality that is very unsettling. Sure, the special effects during Keir Dullea's trip to the beyond that dazzled theater-goers in 1968 now look as silly as the psychedelic backdrop of a Jefferson Airplane concert, but I think everything leading to that point and after that point possesses a stark and arresting visual and sonic atmosphere that is frankly, stunning. It is this "something is not quite right" element that makes the film very enjoyable to me. I do agree that in its content, there is not a whole lot there, but it is the movie equivalent of the saying "It's the singer, not the song"

I will also say that Dr. Strangelove is an all time classic film, hilarious and suspenseful. To me, that one rises above any and all objections one might justifiably have regarding Kubrick.

 

I agree with Erratic on David Lynch. He is abysmal; a bottomless pit of bad ideas and heavy-handed egotism.

Disjointed weirdness for the sake of disjointed weirdness, largely because the man is incapable of maintaining a cohesive narrative long enough to compensate for his paper-thin characters and stilted art-house dialogue

 

I touched them, they're not great.

 

:bears:

 

You're watching the wrong films.

French films are the best in the world. A good French film is as good as it gets.

Unlike music, the French sure do know cinema.

 

French movies are great.

 

Randomly inserting hardcore sex in the middle of a boring, otherwise mainstream movie, does not make a movie good. :nono:

 

So what I'm guessing is you've only Irreversible? Maybe quiet days in clichy?

France has a history of incredible films starting really with Truffaut and Godard. The first Antoine Doinel film is my all time favourite film, though overall I prefer Godard's work, like A bout de souffle and Band a part. Not to mention Melville and lots of other brilliant directors and actors. Most of these films don't have any sex scenes, let alone hardcore ones.

People who don't like French cinema are probably the same sort of people who think a McDonald's hamburger is better than a fillet steak.

 

No, but I think a fillet steak is better then a French film. :hump:

 

French and Japanese films are the best. America is 99% pure shit, with the odd 1% being a real gem.

British films are some of the worst, as it happens.

Out of curiosity Noble, what French films have you actually seen? I want a list :kidcool:

 

:Thumbs:

I like British films too, though.

 

Bande a part is just an amazing film. The dancing scene is the best dancing scene ever, and don't you just love the shooting scenes?

They're so clumsy and absurd, kind of like the antihero of shooting scenes, and far more reminiscent of what I imagine a real shooting scene to look like between most people.

 

I think Bande a part is Godard's best film, even though I do have a soft spot for Belmondo, and really like A bout de souffle.

What British films do you like?

 

I like most of the Brit crime movies I've seen. They are not classic cinema but good fun.

My favorite in Band Apart is the Pat Garrett/Billy The Kid scene.

 

Would you agree it's fair to say anyone who doesn't like French films is an ignorant heathen?