Rashad Injured - Won't Be Fighting at UFC 140...

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  1. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

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    who was he supposed to fight at ufc 140?
     
  3. joony

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    oh, i guess he was slated for jones. i figured that fight wouldnt happen till early 2012.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Machida will probably end up filling in. He has no fight scheduled. Seems like an easy choice.
     
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    dana just now announced this
    him vs lyoto at 140
     
  6. Anthony

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    They should rename rashad Mr. Glass.
     
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    Machida's the Most Deserving Guy Anyways, in REED's Opinion...REED Finally Saw Machida-Rampage on UFC Unleashed & Felt that Machida Won CONVINCINGLY...& Of Course, there's the Beatdown he Put on Rashad, to Win the Title...

    Jones will B Favored & will Likely Win, but Machida's STYLE Can Present some Problems...Will Jones' COMPETITIVE ARROGANCE Lead to him Standing & Striking w/Machida OR does he Look for the Immediate Takedown & an Easier/Safer Fight???....



    REED:cheer:
     
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    Jones will take machida down and elbow his eyes round
     
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    Really? I felt very strongly that Machida gave away the damn fight and scored it 2-1 Rampage.

    Either way Machida is the most deserving, and if anyone can pose some problems for Jones at L/Heavyweight, I think Machida with his style can do that. I prefer this fight by a long shot over Evans
     
  10. Buddy Rydell

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    Well, we can't say that Jones is milking the title. Look at his resumé over the last little while. Now he goes from Rampage to Lyoto. Then Rashad after that. He's taking on some serious competition. Impressive.
     
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    REED Watched the Fight KNOWING that Rampage had Won, yet Found it DIFFICULT to Give Him More than a Round...Machida Didn't do a Whole Lot, but he was FRESHER & BUSIER, in REED's Opinion...




    REED:hammert:
     
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    Along w/Rashad, Machida's an EXCELLENT MMA Counterpuncher w/Fight ENDING Power...Jones COULD Get Chin Checked Here...



    REED:popcorn:
     
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    i thought rampage won the first two rounds but they were both close. machida won the third w/ that one knee and takedown alone, but it's not like it was a 10-8 type round.

    anyways, stylistically, machida's an interesting matchup, but i thought shogun was too and we all so how that turned out.

    one thing machida's good at is keeping his distance but jones should be able to utilize his leg kicks.
     
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    No Doubt...If he Runs the Table in MMA's Most Topsy Turvy, MARQUEE Division, that's an EPIC Accomplishment...



    REED:mj:
     
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    jones' run is impressive for sure, but him fighting these guys are kinda akin to hopkins fighting holmes and joppy as in we know who's going to win.
     
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    He's taking on the best available competition. It doesn't get much better than that. Besides, a lot of people thought Tito was going to beat Hopkins, including Don King. It turned out to be a real lesson. Jones is manning up bigtime here.
     
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    This is MMA. Most of the fighters take on the best possible competition. You dont see much examples of people ducking other fighters. Usually the champ fights the next person in line.
     
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    Yeah, it's not like fighters have some sort of bargaining power. They can't choose their opponent.
     
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    Which is why I love it. Imagine how many great fights we could get if boxing was this way.
     
  20. Buddy Rydell

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    Tito prolonged the fight with Chuck for awhile before finally having to face him. Jones is pretty much the opposite, willing to take on all comers. It's a good time to be a fan of the lightheavies.
     
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    jones so far has proven to be the total package.

    while anderson silva might be the most verstaile striker w/ good enough takedown defense and bjj, he's not known for his ability to take guys down nor known for his submissions (although his bjj is very underrated), but jones can not only strike using both punches, elbows, and kicks, but he's also a very high level wrestler and it seems like he's very very difficult to takedown. even his judo is stellar, being able to trip his opponents from odd angles.

    i'd even go as far as saying that he's the best mma practioner i've ever seen if he impressively downs machida, which i expect him to do.
     
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    Silva very rarely tries to take guys down so i don't think you can really hold that against him. If he ever were against a fighter he couldn't stand with and decided he had to go for takedowns ? We could rate that ability better imo.

    Agreed that if he impressively downs Machida he has a strong argument for best MMA practioner. Lyoto is great at judging distance and using both his speed and footwork. Can he do it against somebody with Jones' reach and skill?

    I'm thinking no, but Machida's strikes are faster and more unpredictable than Shogun or Jackson's.
     
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    It's not really accurate though.

    The best fights weren't made in the Pride/UFC days - best fights weren't made when the UFC and Fedor didn't to business.

    These days, with the reluctance to have champions from different divisions fight eachother, the best fights the fans want to see aren't being made (GSP/Silva, Silva/Jones etc..)

    Fair play though on being unable to duck guys in your own division in the organization you fight in.
     
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    Maybe Evans is also good friends with his Dr.
     
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    Why would guys from the UFC fight guys from Pride. They are two different orginzations. But in each orginzation, they fought the best guy. The guy next in line for the belt.

    As for champions fighting champions in different divisions, that isnt something that Needs to be done. That is something the fighters decide. The champion of the next division isnt the next guy in line. That fight doesnt NEED to take place. That is luxary given to the fans. And bother fighters have to WANT to do it. It's not forced on them.
     
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    None of this changes the fact that the best fighters in the world weren't fighting eachother.

    Doesn't need to be done, no. But the fans want to see it. The fights I mentioned are better fights than GSP vs. hopeless contender and Silva vs. hopeless contender.
     
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    I never said that. I said they take on the best "possible" opponent. Taking on someone from a different orginzation isnt possible all the time.

    That is just an assumption dont. We really dont know if it's a better fight. GSP fighting Condit or GSP fighting diaz are two great fights and could pontentially be better than GSP vs. Silva. I dont think fighters should be bashed for not fighting someone in a higher weight division. I dont see anyone asking to see Yoan Hernandez vs. Wlad.
     
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    Better fight as in, people would be more excited about it. It's a fight that fans really want to see. Like Mayweather/Pacquiao.

    Essentially, my point, is there's a misconception that the best always fight the best in cage fighting. I just don't think it's true.
     
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    Compared to other combat sports the percentage of fighters fighting the best in MMA is extremely high. And comparing pacquio/mayweather to GSP/silva is not correct. Pac and May are the same size in the same weight class. GSP would have to fight a guy much bigger than him, who walks around at well above 200 pounds.

    In MMA, the orginzation gets to choose the fights. That is why the best fights are made. If left up to the fighters, as in boxing for instance, the likelyhood of opponents ducking each other would increase.

    To say there is a misconception that the fighters fight the best in MMA, is ridiculous. In fact, i have never heard that before.
     
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    I'm not comparing it to boxing.

    It's not ridiculous - it's true. And it has been for a long time. The reasons are irrelevant. There's a reason for everything.
     

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