from Fightnews: “Ruiz will be my toughest opponent to date. He is a threat. He is not a brilliant fighter, but his style is effective and is good at a lot of things. He has good stamina and a good chin.†“I am confident that money will always bring them to the table. I was not scared to fight Valuev in Germany. I am more than willing to fight either Wladimir or Vitaly in Germany.†“Without that loss, I would not be here today. That defeat drives me to get better. I know that after my first 10 bouts, I had lost my hunger as a fighter. It’s fresh on my mind.†I want people to say about me that he is an athlete and a great fighter who was willing to fight the division’s best.†Nice quotes. Haye talks too much but I'm starting to think that he might be , just a tiny bit, smart.
he can come into the ring in a ballerina outfit - so long as he beats ruiz. ruiz is the biggest disgrace of fighter in the history of the sport.... except for cheaters like Margarito, Mosley, Toney, Resto, etc etc
He is smart for sure, for avoiding both Klitschko's and taking on a no skill freak instead and barely winning. The guy talked all kinds of shit about Wlad's boring fights yet he stinks it up equally as bad and doesn't dominate like Wlad has.
I think that's a bit unfair. We haven't seen Valuev in a good fight with anyone. I'm not going to hold it against him, a cruiserweight who fought the biggest heavyweight champ ever in one of his first fights in the division, that the fight was boring. Styles make fights, and Haye has a realistic chance of beating Wlad.
every time ruiz fights the sport takes a step backwards. every time he wins, the sport takes ten steps backwards
Haye might have exactly what it takes to destroy the cancer of heavyweight division called Ruiz. The guys who have beaten Ruiz clearly in the past years, Jones, Toney and Chagaev, all did it with speed and well-timed counter punches. That is exactly what Haye is good at. He could well catch Ruiz coming in and either blast him out or turn him into a pacifist ala Jones. Of course, there is always the chance that Ruiz somehow wins as he has done so many times. For the future of the division that would be a catastrophe
So What U"re Saying is, Roy Jones SAVED BOXING by BEATING John Ruiz in Ruiz's Most PUBLICIZED Fight???... REED:hammert:
He helped it, that's for sure. I will tell you this much, no offense to Roy Jones, but if you don't beat Ruiz to a pulp and retire him... you didn't do enough
What does it say for anyone who can't beat Ruiz? I think it speaks volumes about the state of the heavyweight division these days and in the past decade, and its lack of quality
It says that Ruiz' style works against the modern heavyweights well, at a certain level. Though you must consider that Ruiz has never defeated a top-3 challenger even in this so-called weak era
It's not unfair at all. Haye should stop talking if he can't deliver. Am I not supposed to hold him to his words?
Ruiz's success at the top level is due to the weakness and reluctance of referees to take multiple points away and DQs for excessive holding. Anytime Ruiz has tried to box without depending on the clinch, he either looks effective against lower tier (e.g. serin) or completely inept and/or chinless (e.g. first half of Golota fight, Tua, Jones) at the highest level. I'm hopeful haye gives him a thrashing although I wouldn't be shocked if Ruiz ices him, his right hand is pretty decent and its not too slow.
And whenever fighters like Valuev or Ruiz are called "the heavyweight champion" boxing takes even more steps backwards.
John Ruiz has 3 times as many victories over heavyweight world champions as Vitaly does. And if Haye wins, he'll have more done in 4 fights at heavyweight, than Vitaly's done in all of his career. Either way, it's going to be a historic flight.
Not Only That, but MOST of those in this Thread, BITCHING About Ruiz, ALSO Bitch about So-Called "Style Over Substance" Fighters like Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, etc...If Anything, John Ruiz EPITOMIZES "Substance OVER Style", but even THAT ISN'T Good Enough.... REED:hammert:
Ruiz has victories over Holyfield,Tucker and Rahman (all heavyweight world champions). Please note that I don't give him credit for a victory over Valuev, although he's been clearly stuffed by judges in (at least), their first fight. Vitaly has victory ( a single one) over Samuel Peter. Even if you were to count their victories over cruiserweight champs, Ruiz shits all over Vitaly. Vitaly has victories over two cruiserweight champs (Orlin Norris and JC Gomez). Ruiz has only one victory over cruiserweight champ (Holyfield). But we know that Holyfield shits all over Norris and Gomez both as a cruiserweight and as heavyweight. And if Haye were to defeat Ruiz, he'd have 2 victories over heavyweight champions (in a row, no less) against Vitaly's one.
You can spin it any which way - I personally love floyd, never liked jones... but never complained about his style.... John Ruiz is a pathetic fucking excuse for a boxer and he is a disgrace to the sport of boxing
The guy beat 3 times more world champs than Vitaly :notallthere: If he's "a pathetic fucking excuse", who's Vitaly?
...That Made a SUBSTANTIVE IMPACT on his Era of Boxing...Guys like U Desperately WANT to Call Ruiz "The Worst Champion EVER", but the FACT is, he ACCOMPLISHED Faaaaaaaaar Toooooooo MUCH to Warrant that Designation.... & Being an "Ugly" Fighter to Watch DOES NOT Diminish that 1 Bit.... REED:nono:
U Know, Ruiz & THE GREAT Larry Holmes R KINDRED SPIRITS... To this Day, Holmes NEVER Gets the RESPECT that he Deserves, Because his Reign was BOOKENDED by Muhammad Ali & Mike Tyson....Similarly, John Ruiz Catches FLACK for Having Lennox Lewis & Wladimir Klitschko on Opposite Ends of HIS Reign... We'd Better Learn to APPRECIATE Ruiz while he's Here...We WON'T Always have that Luxury... REED:hammert:
Never quit, never surrender. That's always been Ruiz's motto, unlike so many of today's (mostly European) fighters. Imagine Ruiz quitting against a guy, 2 feet shorter and weighing 75 pounds less than him (like Vitaly did against Byrd). Imagine Ruiz having to resort to "poisoned urine" excuses to justify a defeat against some bum (like Wladimir did after he was demolished by Purrity)
Exactly, Ruiz may not have the prettiest of style, but he's far as inept or boring as most clowns here pass him off. Sure he has some terribly boring fights, but he got some pretty good fights too, the Chagaev and the Toney fights in particular were brillant, and it's not like if either guy's are excitement machine ( for Toney, at hw ). Plus, he's the only one who made a Valuev fight watchcble, his fights with him were far better than the garbage Haye fed us. Ruiz is alway's in front of you, he doesn't have any reach advantage over anyone so if pretty much any hw let his hands go against him, they gonna find him, they don't because they are wary of his deceptevely quick punches. Imo, Wlad fights are more boring and his style his much more disgracefull, Wlad is an outside fighter, with a huge reach, who clinch to negate his opponent offense.Guy's like Bute or Wlad, who are quicker and have more reach than their opponents, then clinch whenever the other guy gets inside and complain when he tries to manhandle him in the clinch ( tbh, I don't think Wlad ever complained ) are far worst. Sure Ruiz clinch, but most of the time, his opponent is even more to blame, McCline, Rahman and Oquendo were by far the worst offender in their fights with Ruiz.