From good ol' fightnews.com... "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Kostecki-Donfack result changed! ...[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Donfack saw his career-best majority draw against fringe Polish contender Dawid Kostecki overruled this Monday by the respective Council of Professional Boxing Federation of Russia. Having carefully studying the videotape of the Kostecki-Donfack bout, which took place on the October 13th Ibragimov-Holyfield undercard, and well as the referee's and judges' reports, the PBFR ruled that the referee Victor Panin was totally erroneous in not scoring a knockdown at the end of round seven. So the final verdict of that bout is now a unanimous decision in favor of the Pole." Is this unprecented? I sure as hell haven't ever heard of it. Yes, referees scoring kd's/ko's that were actually from headbutts gets overturned, but I'm not even sure if mistakes like when the punch misses or a trip occurs and it's scored as a kd are. In any case, afaik, judges are obligated to take into account a referees kd call in the round's scoring. Fair enough. But, I don't think they have any obligation to go with the ref on a not-called knockdown. So they all had the option of scoring the round 10-8, anyway. That makes this decision to change the results bullshit for a couple of reasons: 1. The judges might have already factored in the kd in their scoring. 2. The judges might not have scored it 10-8 even if the ref ruled it a kd. (Imagine the round was a speck away from being 10-10) [/FONT]
Fightnews scored that fight 78-73 for Kostecki they scored it 78-73 without the knock down factored in..so that gives you an idea what kind of a bullshit decision it was
How do you KNOW Fightnews didn't factor in the knockdown? That gives you an idea of what a bullshit decision changing the scores is.
well i dont know for sure you're right but most people tend not to acknowledge a knockdown unless the ref does the same
agREED to an extent - most judges, yes. people tend to factor in common sense on such occasions, but also make up their own rules (like not using the 10 pt must system, scoring multiple kd rounds 9-8 or some shit)
I don't know if most people or judges don't score knockdowns the ref dismisses. I know I tend really factor them into the scoring because ref call or not, they are part of mY reality of what happened in the round. I don't think anyone should fall back on the ref's non-call to justify NOT scoring the knockdown if they know it was one. It's a little different with a ref scoring a knockdown when you believe it wasn't one. I believe the rules tend to say you must score the knockdown. Therefore, a judge is stuck. The only hope is rationalizing that you would have called the round 10-9 or 10-10 for the other guy and making it a 10-9 to prevent completely fucking the other fighter. But, if it's a 10-9 round anyway, you're pretty much trapped into scoring the round 10-8. Write that off to 'shit happens'. But, the point I was trying to make in the OP is that I've never heard of a commission making a knockdown call after a fight and then changing the scoring to reflect it. It's preposterous as Daffy Duck would say.
