Rios Vs Valero

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Slice N Dice, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    25,341
    Likes Received:
    3,695
    Location:
    West London
    Who wins?
     
  2. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
  3. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    30,692
    Likes Received:
    4
    Valero.
     
  4. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
    Rios with ease.
     
  5. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    30,692
    Likes Received:
    4
    Valero.
     
  6. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
  7. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,376
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    Rios would be a lot bigger... he'd push Valero around
     
  8. His_Royness

    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2006
    Messages:
    6,760
    Likes Received:
    15
    I think Valero could outbox him for 12 rounds... he wouldn't bang with Rios and he had skills. He is also faster.

    That fight wouldn't be easy for anybody. Rios has a great chin but Valero would find him with ease and he could bang. Rios with ease is ludacris! :lol:
     
  9. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    37,353
    Likes Received:
    3,991
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism
    valero by KO
     
  10. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
    Valero couldn't outbox anyone, he was basically a mini Mayorga.
     
  11. His_Royness

    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2006
    Messages:
    6,760
    Likes Received:
    15


    He outboxed deMarco and i'm not sure Rios could do the same thing as convincingly as Valero did.
     
  12. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    55,561
    Likes Received:
    13,219
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    I'd have taken Valero at 135, and who knows how Valero would have carried 140.
     
  13. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,273
    Likes Received:
    5,130
    It all comes down to whether or not Valero could hurt Rios. He didn't usually show a lot of skill but packed a serious punch. If his power came up with him to 140 i'd have to favor Valero.
     
  14. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    37,353
    Likes Received:
    3,991
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism
    make no mistake valero hit harder than alvarado or anyone else rios fought. he was also faster than rios
     
  15. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,376
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    I think Valero might be the most overrated, overhyped guy of the last 10-15 years

    If he hadn't died, he'd have a few losses by now
     
  16. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    55,561
    Likes Received:
    13,219
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    When he died he was pretty clearly the best lightweight in the world.

    That's why I said I'd favor him over Rios at 135.

    At 140, it's possible he wouldn't handle the weight as well. Rios might be too much for him at junior welter.

    Even at junior welter though, I'm pretty certain that Valero would have beaten Khan and Garcia.
     
  17. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,376
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    perhaps. But at a shit time for Lightweights, no?
     
  18. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,376
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    Also, I think JMM, after getting rocked early, probably would have countered the shit out of Valero
     
  19. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,273
    Likes Received:
    5,130
    Agreed. I think JMM would have schooled Valero and always wanted to see the fight because of the massive style contrast.

    What made it extra interesting is that Valero could box a bit (although only showed it in the gym) but Marquez doesn't shy away from a fire fight.
     
  20. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
    :atu: at this "Valero could box in the gym" nonsense.

    If he was this skilled boxer in the gym, why did he fight like Mayorga in his professional fights?
     
  21. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    37,353
    Likes Received:
    3,991
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism

    he was more skilled in his earlier bouts. when he had a real trainer.
     
  22. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
    I've seen a few of his earlier Japanese bouts, and he looked like a wild, swinging bum then too. I've literally never seen any hint of this mythical boxing ability. When I first saw the guy, I was shocked, given the hype he was receiving.
     
  23. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    37,353
    Likes Received:
    3,991
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism
    by the time he was fighting in japan he was training himself
     
  24. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
    So he showed great boxing ability in his first year or two as a pro, against complete scrubs?
     
  25. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    37,353
    Likes Received:
    3,991
    Occupation:
    The Cal Ripken of Alcoholism
    naw but he showed more skill and controlled aggression in the gym when he was beating the crap out of contenders. KOing some. his japanese foes were equally as scrubby as the ones prior
     
  26. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2003
    Messages:
    12,179
    Likes Received:
    1,454
    Rios is bigger and stronger. I think at 140 he takes him out in 8 rounds. It would be a bloodbath.
     
  27. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2005
    Messages:
    6,543
    Likes Received:
    121
    Gender:
    Male
    Exactly.

    Rios would have killed this bum.
     
  28. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2006
    Messages:
    7,745
    Likes Received:
    919
    Valero dominated an excellent lw in Demarco. I'm not sure Rios beats Demarce
     

Share This Page