Roy Jones & Bob Foster. 12 Rds...

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  1. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Two guys often touted as legends of 175, in spite of having limited resumes.

    Who do we favour? I am leaning toward the ever-oversold Jones here, having watched some recent Foster, but theres room for persuasion.
     
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    12 rounds, it's better for Roy there, but I still would never pick a 175 fighter over Foster with any certainty at all

    15, gimme Foster
     
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    Basically a tightrope walk for Roy. I'd slightly lean towards Foster
     
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    since Roy lost maybe 2 rounds at 175 in a decade and Foster fought when guys are tough this is an easy pick.

    Roy should be a 95% favorite, Foster would have to land a bomb and then more bombs, and he really just wasn't that fast.
     
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  6. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    That post almost convinces me to back Foster.
     
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    I know it's not fashionable, but based on the tape I've seen, I just think Roy was a better fighter. :dunno:
     
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    Based upon the tape you've seen what would be your all time hockey team?
     
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    Roy was pretty useful.
     
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    He was pretty fast from recollection.

    Not "Expeditious" Erik McGrorkal fast, but still fast.
     
  11. Hut*Hut

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    Fastest fighter of all time, in my book. But you wonder about his chin.
     
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    I would have to pick Roy. Just too damn fast. Like Hut said, fastest fighter ever, P4P. A light heavyweight with the speed of a fast featherweight.

    Foster was very good, but I think he'd have trouble hitting Roy flush enough to change the fight.
     
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    Quite possibly but Foster wasn't a guy with a big punch and nothing else. He has more than just the "puncher's chance".
     
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    I agree, I like Foster. He had pretty good skills and range, and awesome hookercuts etc.

    However he was by no means quick at 175, and I think the speed disparity and agility of a prime Roy would be too much.

    The weird thing is, we don't REALLY know what kind of chin a prime Roy had.

    Foster could have blasted him more cleanly than anyone else he fought at 168/175, but who knows how well Roy could have taken it.
     
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    Exactly. I don't think Roy had a glass chin but i think it's more than fair to say it was far from granite. Jones would have to fight kind of in a "tight-rope" manner. Foster had a very long reach. He wouldn't have to chase Jones around only to get pot-shotted.
     
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    Foster had terrific handspeed and his jab was simply incredible... That jab would create a huge amount of problems for Roy
     
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    Even though the recipe for this fight is that Jones boxes and Foster chases, it must be noted that Jones too can score a KO here. I'd say this is 60/40 Roy kicks his ass
     
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    I suppose, but if a knockout comes in this one chances are it's Roy being the one on the wrong end of it.
     
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    It is most likely yes, but I wanted to point out that this is not your typical boxer vs puncher bout since both could do both. Foster wouldn't be able to go all-out aggressive and Jones couldn't pot shot all the way. That's what makes this interesting
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    I can see Roy finding a place for the lead right hand, though Im sure Foster would adapt
     
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    Foster probably has a better chance than I'm indicating, because range and jab is probably the best way to neutralise speed.

    It's just that Jones was so freakishly fast for a man of his size, so compared to other fast fighters, the difference in speed was much more, because he was fighting light heavyweights.
     
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    Im not sure Jones ever fought a light heavyweight as fast as Foster, never mind as good. I wish we could see this fight it'd be amazing. I really lean towards Bob though
     
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    As fast? Not sure, but certainly not as good.
     
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    Obviously not as good, or even close, but fast? Not sure, Foster never struck me as particularly speedy, even for a 175 pounder.
     
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    Foster was a minmalist with his movement but in terms of his hand speed he was damn fast. I cant think of a faster guy Roy fought off the top of my head......Montel Griffith compares and he gave Roy some real problems. I can see Bob executing a broadly similar fight plan/style but with every success multiplied by just how hard he hit. And the fact he was flat out better than Griffith.
     
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    Griffin was quicker imo than Foster, but such a different style of fighter that the speed factor is irrelevant between them.
     
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    Let me back track a little on the speed talk. I watched Ali-Foster this morning and was very impressed with how Foster seemed to outspeed Ali and it fogged my brain a bit. He was sharp on the trigger and disguised his punches nicely, but not as fast as I've claimed here
     
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    I see similarities in how Griffith fought Roy and how Foster would
     
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    Foster was no sloth but his own speed wouldn't be a factor. It would be more how he coped with Roy's as that's where the signifcant difference is.
     

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