Roy Jones vs. David Tua

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  1. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Heavyweight Jones vs. the best Tua you can think of.

    Who?
     
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    Very interesting fight. Jones could conceivably win every second of every round, but just as likely, he could get KO'd with 1 left hook.

    Who would you pick?

    I'd pick precariously pick Jones by decision.
     
  3. steve_dave

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    Yeah, Jones by decision. But man, he would have to be flawless.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Best Tua catches Roy Jones early and KO him....


    For Roy to win this fight he would have to complete dominate Tua...0 out of 350 thrown punches....and that is NOT going to happen..
     
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    Jones by decision I think. It really doesn't take much to pacify Tua and Jones would do enough.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    I would've like to see HEAVYWEIGHT Roy Jones pacify David Tua of the Ibeabuchi fight...IT WILL only take ONE LEFT HOOK or Overhand right...
     
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    As I said recently, all it takes to shut Tua down is to punch or to move. Feinting will probably do it as well.:lol: Just do something and he stops throwing hard shots. Watch his fights - unless the other guy is standing still not punching it's either nothing or it's those range finding crab touches (which compubox log as thrown shots). Really and truly the guy is THAT limited.
     
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    Obviously Tua COULD win. But I think it'd take Jones letting himself get caught on the ropes. Failing that, Jones probably wins

    Tua's like that Guiness advert 'he waits....it's what he does'
     
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    Wow, I really am hesitant to predict it. Steve is of course right --- Jones would have to magically proficient & cautious. He really cannot (& would not try) to throw anything to give Tua pause for thought.

    It's hard to see Tua overcoming so much, I really never rated him. On the other hand, it's no easier to imagine Jones evading every single shot for twelve rounds without so much as a solitary hiccup, which is all it would doubtless take.
     
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    Certainly winnable for Jones... But the threat is immense
     
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    I can't see Jones staying out of trouble for 12 rounds against Tua. Tua wasn't as useless as Hut suggests. Jones gets KTFO within 5
     
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    Who are we kidding? Jones wouldnt even sign to fight the ghost of Buster Douglas :lol:
     
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    That's really not true.. watch Tua's fight with Ibeabuchi, he traded shots with Ike all night long. Also, Tua has more than a few late round KOs on his ledger, that doesn't happen when you just give up in the middle of the fight you're losing (and Tua was getting outboxed for most of those fights).

    Keep in mind as well, we're talking about the BEST version of Tua. The one who was in shape, a fast starter, and threw huge combinations. I don't think the RJJ that beat Ruiz could be favored against the Tua that blasted Ruiz out in 19 seconds. Jones Jr certainly doesn't punch hard enough to discourage him.

    The post-Lennox fat, lazy Tua would get shut out easily, though.
     
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    Tua EASY. Ko1 as a matter of fact. Roy wasn't big enough to hang with David. You need some size and a JAB that being the key here a JAB to beat Tua. That's Tua's kryptonite.
     
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    Tua is fat
     
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    Roid is not a heavyweight . It's not even fair to him to match him up against heavyweights....
     
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    Yeah because he never fought at heavyweight before right?:Hanzkiller:
     
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    Ohhh yeah that right...the same guy David Tua KO'ed in 19 seconds? or was it 9 seconds?
     
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    Not against a live body.
     
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    He only threw hard shots when Ike stopped in front of him. At all other times it was those keep-busy range finding touches. Watch it again. The exceptions are few and far between.

    Tua fucking sucks
     
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    Still, I thought he beat Ike in a close one.
     
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    I didn't, but if he did it was only because Ike spent literally three quarters of the fight standing in a phone box with Tua like an idiot. Whenever Ike showed the slightest movement, Tua was was helpless.
     
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    David Tua is fat but he beat several guys who were not fat
     
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    Tua was indeed fat, but he wasn't as much of a bum as some make him out to be and he was a legit contender during his best years.

    Jones would try to run, peck and poke his way to a win, but I can't see him avoiding all of Tua's big shots. Tua gets him in the later rounds.
     
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    Look, it's rare I make a useful observation, so the once a year or so when it happens I demand you all pay attention and listen to me, dammit! :lol:

    Tua basically doesn't throw hard punches unless the other guy is standing still right in front of him (or so hurt that he's offensively incapacitated). You move a bit and he's a shark getting his belly tickled. That's why A) nearly all of his KOs are guys caught against the ropes B) most his significant KOs are late in the fight because he relies on heavyweights tiring out enough that he can catch them standing still later on.

    The Ruiz KO's the only major exception I've seen in all Tua's fights (in terms of the other guy caught as a moving target) and when you do something once in an entire career that can be chalked to simple luck. Especially when it's 9s into a fight & the other guy's cold.

    So Roy would have to fall asleep of his own accord before Tua could ever do the same to him. It'd look like a half arsed sparring session.

    Jones 12-0.
     
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    Tua knocked out Moorer in one round as well...in fact Tua has about 17 first round KOs. That's hardly a fluke. You're simply not objective when talking about Tua I'm afraid...

    No way is Jones surviving 12 rounds with Tua.

    NO WAY!
     
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    No, it's the fact Tua landed a fight changing punch while the other guy was moving. That was the unique aspect of the Ruiz KO, not the round.

    Morrer was caught still against the ropes when he got KO'd. He was 250lb and immobile. There are more than enough mediocre, immobile heavyweights for Tua to rack up plenty of 1st round KOs.

    Unless Jones comes in as overweight as Moorer, he isn't one of them.
     
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    Tua has like 16 first round KOs on his ledger aside from the Ruiz fight. Come on Hut, you're selling him more than a little bit short here. I'm not saying Roy couldn't win, he might very well do so. But based on how he looked against Ruiz, I don't think I would've favored him against the best version of Tua.
     
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    Yes because there are plenty of shit, immobile heavyweights out there. And if they barely move to begin with Tua doesn't have to wait for them to slow down. :dunno:

    That simple. Watch those first round KOs, none of them break the pattern except Ruiz.
     

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