"Schooling" an opponent

I think the term is often over used. Often when a guy is outboxed it referred to as a "schooling" when it's not the case.

A good example would be Whitaker-Chavez. Whitaker was robbed unquestionably and beat Julio to the punch most of the night but it wasn't a one sided dominant performance.

Whitaker-Haugen on the other hand was a schooling. Ditto Hopkins-Trinidad.

Mayweather-Corrales = Schooling
Mayweather - ODLH not.

What are some examples of fights where the term 'schooled' is appropriate?

 

Roy Jones - Hall
Jones - Telesco
Jones - [insert name here]
Hopkins - Trinidad
Wright - Trinidad
Mayweather - Gatti
Calzaghe - Lacy

 

byrd-tua

 

Another Criteria of a "Schooling" is that the Bout GENERALLY Go's the DISTANCE or @ Least the LATTER Rounds...It RARELY Results in a KO in REED's Opinion...A PROLONGED, 1 Sided, SKILLFULLY Embarassing Defeat...

Roy SCHOOLED James Toney...Whittaker SCHOOLED Buddy McGuirt in the RE (REED Personally WOULD Classify Whittaker-Chavez as a Schooling, by the Way)...

Paul Malignaggi SCHOOLED Lovemore N'Dou...


REED

 

agREED w/All but the Highlighted Examples...

Being NITPICKY, those Bouts were a Bit Tooooooooo VIOLENT to Classify as "Schoolings" N REED's Opinion:: ...

N a "Schooling", the "Damage" is Almost More MENTAL than PHYSICAL...Roy & Floyd were PUNISHING Hall & Gatti in those Bouts...

REED

 

That was a beatdown.

I tend to view fights like this as one where the guy doesn't KO the person but systematically takes the guy apart and makes him give up on himself during the fight.

Wright-Trinidad comes to mind and MAB-Hamed could be a candidate.

 

agREED...

And we ain't even TWINS ::

 

Ali - Terrell
Ali - Patterson
Ali - Liston 1

 

Mayweather - Baldomir

 

good example of a fight mistakenly labelled as a schooling, but in reality a close fight.

 

Perhaps for the first 5 or 6 rounds when the crowd managed to stay in the building before getting bored.

 

Bernard Hopkins-Antonio Tarver
Bernard Hopkins-Felix Trinidad

 

School lessons are usually boring

 

Oscar De La Hoya-Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Kostya Tszyu-Ben Tackie
Floyd Mayweather-Diego Corrales

 

Boring...actually makes this a great example....as UGTBK also alluded to

 

if that's the case, Sven Ottke's entire career is based on schoolings.

 

:bears: :bears: correct. He was the grand master

 

See my problem with most of these examples (along with Floyd-Baldomir) is that they were mismatches on paper to begin with.

Calzaghe-Lacy is a great example, as are the two Trinidad fights (as much as it pains me to say it). But Jones-Hall? Telesco? and basically 80% of his competition? TWINS' Jones-Toney example was much better.

IMO, schooling is overused and abused in that sense as well. It should be reserved for fights where it wasn't necessarily expected. Floyd-Baldomir was boring not only because it lacked action and the slightest bit of drama, but because it also played out exactly as expected.

 

Yeah but that's a different topic. The thread starter didn't qualify schoolings..that they had to be associated with expected close fights going in.

 

True. I'm just offering my opinion.

That said, look at your examples, and then look at his. Whitaker-Haugen was probably the closest thing to a perceived matchup on that list - it's arguably the Floyd-Baldomir of the list, though even at that, Haugen was a lot closer to being a live underdog than was the featherduster salesman.

 

how about Leija/Bojado?

 

Lewis - Tua

 

Never seen the fight but i heard Leija did give the overrated Bojado a boxing lesson.

 

As commonly used, the term 'schooled' is strongly correlated with poster's personal regard for the loser of the fight

 

Yep.

Hence 'Floyd schooled Oscar' among many other examples.

 

McGirt schooled Brown, Mayweather schooled corrales, calzaghe schooled lacy

 

All of the above were mentioned already. More!

 

ok here's some more for consideration:

Nunn/Barkley

McCallum/McCrory

Duran/Moore (this might have been a beat-down, not sure)

Johnston/Manfredy

Salido/Guerrero

Quintana/Julio

 

Quintana-Julio is a good one.

 

Notice that Oscar and Castillo never schooled ANYONE of note.

It takes a master boxer to be able to school a good opponent.

in any event, I digress:

Leonard - Duran 3