Should Shane try to KO or outbox Cotto?

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  1. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

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    I know most would rather see him go for the KO because it makes for a better fight. I do to.

    But I'm wondeing if it would be a mistake to go for broke early instead of using his speed and skills and having a plan for 12 rounds?

    The thing is that Shane is an old man compared to Cotto. I am expecting a hard fight from both so I would give Cotto the edge late in the fight where he can really hurt a tired Shane and finish him.

    It's one of those fights that anything can happen. Shane has the tools to outbox the younger Cotto. But I see Cotto stronger late in the fight.

    Then again Cotto's chin can get him in trouble early and maybe Shane should test it early.

    Shane is the most experienced fighter so I think the pace of this fight will depend alot on what he wants to do. Either way Cotto will be coming forward from the beginning.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Mosley should try to KO Cotto...he isn't going to outbox HIM...who was the last fighter Mosley outbox? He doesn't box..he slugs with people...
     
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    yeah but against Cotto is is the most experienced and savy fighter. He should be able to use that to his advangate not just go in there like a fool and try to outslug the younger fighter.

    With all them years and big fights you'd figure he would have some type of plan. Not to mention he has better skills and speed over cotto. Not overwhelming but stuff he should use.

    Unless he takes Cotto out early slugging with him will get him in trouble late in the fight. Cotto gets stronger as the fight goes on. I think Cotto can weather the storm early and pound the shit out of Mosley late. Actually I kind of see that happening.:popcorn:
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Mosley doesn't have the jab or legs to outbox Cotto...the best strategy for Mosley is to come out fast and to the body...COTTO has NEVER taken it to the body so we don't know how he will handle it......

    Mosley should come out and test if Cotto can take it like he gives it...
     
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    I like Cotto but i have a feeling Mosley will stop him
     
  6. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    werd....
     
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    Cotto took Vicious shots to the body against the Torres. He didnt flinch once.
     
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    he did?..i need to watch that again..on utube....
     
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    I thought Quintana got Cotto's attention to the body. Regardless, Cotto's boxing skills are a but underrated IMO. His jab isn;t that bad when he uses it and Mosley is no defensive master.
     
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    Maybe you need to rewatch him against Oscar because his jab and his foot work (which is outstanding and severly underrated) can easily win him this fight. Shane isn't a slugger, he's an aggressive boxer, and I've already stated his superior footspeed will be a big reason why he wins this fight.

    So to answer the question I think he should start out aggressively and later get on his toes and pick Cotto apart from the outside until Cotto folds. It's something I've seen Shane do quite a few times.
     
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    Mosely should just time him coming forward, or counter-punch the way he did beautifully last outing, infact, if the same shiny black beast who turned up for Collazo, again shows up for Cotto, we'll have ourselves a genuine Puerto Rican killer on our hands :crafty: .
     
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    He should fight him the way Floyd did.

    Sorry, he should fight him the Floyd would.

    Wait...just a minute....maybe he should just fucking fight him.
     
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    The longer the fight goes the worse it's going to be for Mosley, IMO.

    He should try to get Cotto outta there early.
     
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    I agree!:bears: Last time I seen Cotto take it to the body was against Quintana, and I think Quintana hurt him.
     
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    Great Topic!! (should be a poll)


    I think shane's best chance is to go for an early KO. He's not outboxing Cotto. If Shane tries to use his legs too much and attempt to pretend he's Mayweather, he'll burn out by the late rounds. Cotto will be winning the rounds if Shane attempts to pretend he's a boxer in there.

    Shane has to go for the KO, and it's possible given Cotto's vulnerabilities.
     
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    Bullshit and REEDtarded position. :nono:

    The REASON Shane hasn't gotten KO's is due to his TRYING to knock a guy out. Shane has never been a KO puncher (though he has a few one punch KO's) and has ALWAYS been most effective when he's relaxed and let's his offense flow.

    Example: The Adrian Stone and Fernando Vargas KO's were mostly due to Shane being relaxed, sitting down then properly setting his feet and turning over his punches.
     
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    The Adrian Stone KO was due to Adrian being shit, and the Vargas KO was due to Tito and Oscar.
     
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    I agree Vargas was done way before Shane even fought him.
     
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    Those punches were delivered properly and it also speaks to my point as to why Shane SHOULDN'T go for a knockout like Slystaff foolishly thinks he should.

    Shane has never been a KO puncher so why would he try against a guy like Cotto? :dunno:

    It's foolishness on the Canadian bacon's part to suggest such a thing.
     
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    mosley's best bet is to throw combinations on the inside and move in and out as quickly as he can and hope that cotto will eventually fall.

    it's an ardous task considering cotto's incredible recuperative power, which is why i dont see how this old version of mosley's going to win.
     
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    This is guaranteed FOTY imo....
     
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    Shane should tell his Dad to throw in the towel during the staredown
     
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    He's got to try and mix it up....but he knows he has the power to hurt Cotto...and that the openings will be there.....perhaps the worst tactic would be to get on his bike for the 12 rounds.....i think Cotto would wear him down that way
     
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    Exactly
     
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    I give Mosley a lot of CREDIT for taking on Cotto. Mosley is a boxer/slugger. He trades way too much to be slick. He should use his SPEED early while testing Cotto's CHIN to keep him honest.

    I would not be surprised to see Cotto moving to have Mosley run into shots. Mosley is off his feet and lunging at times.

    But to answer the question, Cotto is a strong motherfucker, stronger than Mosley at that weight. His chin is vulnerable when he is pressing the fight in disorderly fashion, without regard of what's coming back at him. Cotto will be careful with Mosley's speed.

    This is defintely a PICK'EM fight. Look for Cotto to be a stronger version of Winky and come on strong down the stretch to win an UD.

    The only way Mosley can win is to outbox him, that ain't happening. He needs to committ to a KO shot and hurt Cotto coming in.
     
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    This fight is just 10 days away :bears: :bears: :bears:
     
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    Mosely needs to try and box Cotto, and if he does it effectively, his chance for a KO may come. But if he goes in and tries to make it a brawl, he's got no chance to win.

    I think Cotto wins a UD.

    TFK
     
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    What do you mean pretend he's Mayweather? He has better foot speed than Floyd. Floyd does not use his legs the way Shane does. Floyd never gets on his toes and boxes. Not to take anything away from Floyd, bu it's all upper body movement with him.

    Now I'll sit and wait for everyone to start telling me how much better Floyd's foot speed is better like they always do.
     

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