Steve Collins ''between now and when I turn 50, if Roy wants to fight, I’ll take the opportunity n

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  1. Jimmy

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    Steve Collins, 48, recently spoke with ATG radio. In an exclusive interview he said he would fight Roy Jones jr between now and when he turns 50 because he feels that when the two super-middleweights were at their best back in the 90's, Jones avoided him.


    “To me he was a coward for not taking me on. People say Roy Jones was a great fighter but I knew all along that Roy Jones didn't have a great chin. I swore to people that if I had gotten the fight with him, I guaranteed I would catch him on the chin and he would go out,''

    “It just bothers me that people talk about him so much. The kid ran from me for all of his career. I’m 48 years old. So between now and when I turn 50 years old if Roy wants to fight, I’ll take the opportunity now."



    Well, after listening to what Collins had to say, Jones reacted. In an exclusive interview with 8countnews, Jones said he'd fight Collins ''anytime, anywhere,'' and that he would ''come to Ireland and fight,''. ''185 or above and i'll fight.'' he added.

    When asked about hearing that Collins had actually gone to his house in Pensacola back then, Jones replied by saying ''I didn't see him.''

    So, would you watch this IF it was to actually really transpire?

    Want to hear your thoughts on this and your thoughts on whether you believe Jones did duck Collins.

    Could Collins have beaten Jones?


    You can catch the Collins interview here via youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxHMEA8VqAc

    and you can catch the Jones interview here via the 8CN podcast http://8countnews.com/index.php/8cn...-collins-talks-pacquiao-marquez-and-more.html
     
  2. Irish

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    Okay, so Steve needs some money.
     
  3. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    :lol: so you feel this is just something he's said just to get the public talking but won't or should not be seen through?
     
  4. Irish

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    Ironically, Steve now has less brain damage than Roy does. Neither man should be allowed to fight again, unless it is against each other, hopefully they both die in the ring.
     
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    I agree.

    This should be and hopefully will be swept under the carpet, but as we know there's always a group who will jump at the chance to promote it and some fans will buy into it.

    ''Unsettled business'' or something they'll call it.
     
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    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    i'm sure each fighter could make at least 50k each from this fight :bears:
     
  7. Irish

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    "Unsettled Stomachs", more like it. These two are so old that they probably need an Alka Selzer after their Wheato's in the morning.

    Roy: "Collared Greens give me gas"

    Collins: "Sprouts make me all childish"
     
  8. Trplsec

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    I always liked Collins. He was a functional pro. But his career was basically highlighted by beating Eubank and Benn, and being obsessed with Roy Jones.
     
  9. Irish

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    Collins would have done well in the Super 6.
     
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    Indeed.

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    I think so too. Collins is very Froch-eqsue (or vice versa)

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  12. Irish

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    Collins vs Froch is a tear-up, and I fancy Collins.
     
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    Aye. Gun to my head and I'd pick Collins. It's one of those matchups where neither guy wins more than 7 out of ten.

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  14. Trplsec

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    So Eubank was old and shot at 29 years old. And Benn was old and shot one year after the biggest win of his career.

    I agree they were both past the absolutely best points of their careers, but calling them "old and shot" is hyperbole.

    By the way, not that chronological years matter, but Collins is actually older than Eubank and only 6 months younger than Benn.
     
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    Eubanks was vastly diminished from the minute Michael Watson collapsed at White Hart Lane in 1991. He fought mostly like shit in every fight afterwards. Compare the first and second fights against Benn for a clear example of this; in the first he fought like a savage and stopped Benn, in the second he plodded around doing the bare minimum and probably lost. Even in the Collins fight, Eubanks had him on the ropes and in deep trouble in the 9th. He stopped punching and backed off instead of doing what he did against Watson in the 12th. He even said afterwards that he did it consciously and that Watson flashed through his mind as he was punching.

    Benn, on the other hand, was finished, and I mean finished, after the McClellan fight. I was at his fight was Malinga in Newcastle where he lost his title and he was an absolute shadow of what he was in the fight with McClellan in losing to a guy he beat handily years before.

    Benn and Eubanks were diminished by the tragedies they played their part in. You cannot simply look at their ages and say 'he was only 29'.

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    Collins would not have been able to catch Jones had they fought back in the day

    Jones would have won a wide decision
     
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    10 Rounds :lol:
     
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    Eubank had enough to give Calzaghe hell for 12 rounds.

    Money...That is why I believe Collins when he speaks about Roy Jones. He wanted that big fight, that big pay day more than anything else and Roy was his ticket to that goal.
     
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    Jones would have burst Steves arse. Collins collapsed in the gym when he was preparing for that fight with Jones. Doctors found a "shadow" on his brain.
     
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    Jones beating Collins 10/10 has nothing to do with it. Collins wanted that fight for the reason I stated above.
     
  21. Irish

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    Yes, but in true fightbeat fashion I will now accuse you of saying something you never said and repeat it ad infinitum over the next three years. It's your own fault for saying that Steve would have beaten Roy. :nono:
     
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    An elephant never forgets eh?


    :lol:
     
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    According to HBO and a Live Panel of Boxing Writers, Collins DIDN'T...This was During the Jones-Brannon Pre-Fight, where it was Pointed Out that HBO Offered Nigel Benn, Frankie Liles AND Steve Collins "Career High Purses" to Fight Roy Jones, which they DECLINED....

    Collins is Obviously DESPERATE for Money...


    REED:hammert:
     
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    Jones would have fucked up Collins, as would Calzaghe
     
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    If you listen to the interview, he is clearly joking.

    Simply getting into the ring with Jones was victory for Collins. Trust me I know he wanted that fight :shadow:
     
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    Collins got slated in here for beating up and old Eubank.... 2/3 years later an OLDER Eubank gave Joe his toughest fight. I dont see how anyone can stand over such a claim.

    I was a fan of Joe, I travelled to NYC for his fight with Jones but I never felt he would 'fuck Collins up'
     
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    Collins was looking for the Jones fight back in 1998/1999. It was all over Irish radio at the time, and the newspaper people here felt it was closer to being made than not. Then Collins collapsed in sparring with Howard Eastman, or Gilbert Eastman, cannot remember which, and that was that.
     
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    Calzaghe probably would have decisioned Collins in a close but clear fight. Its worth pointing out that Reid gave {a one-handed Joe} a tough night. Reid would have got the suntan kicked out of him by Collins.
     
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    Kesslers right hand to the guts might just be one of the most unappreciated single shots in boxing. Kessler is fucking him up with single rights to the pit of the belly, as he did Froch. Magee could have been DQ'd there.
     
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    Agreed on both counts. Styles makes fights and all that malarky but I dont see anything on Joe's CV that would suggest he dominates Collins.
     

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