Two-time World Boxing Association heavyweight champion John "The Quietman" Ruiz (43-8-1, 29 KOs), as well as his advisor/attorney Tony Cardinale and head trainer Manny Siaca, Sr., believe they faced sizable unfair disadvantages August 30 fighting Nikolai Valuev (49-1, 34 KOs) for the WBA heavyweight title in Berlin. Valuev recaptured the WBA belt by way of a 12-round decision clouded in controversy. Team Ruiz is demanding a full videotape of Valuev-Ruiz II to further review for evidence of alleged corrupt practices. Points of contention include the following issues: http://fightbeat.com/news_details.php?NW=21823
The in-fight problems are always going to be problems; refs make judgment calls, and they may not always go your way. Therefore I doubt the protest about no knockdown will change anything. The running tally by a judge... anybody else have news on this? It just seems like human nature to know what you scored; what, are refs supposed to blank their mind after each round? I understand that they shouldn't write a tally down, because then people start to psychologically have the fighter who's down automatically "catch up" via future close rounds, but what are they basing this on otherwise? The corner being informed of a score: this is something that has been mentioned on several occasions, and I can definitely see how it's a problem. It seems as if this hasn't been resolved for quite some time. I hope it does soon, because it alters the playing field.
WOW a FULL video tape... now we're facing a real protest here. It might just work this time... :laughing::laughing:
What an irony would it be if they actually found signs of fix from this fight, After all the decision was correct and the one in losing end is John Ruiz who has benefitted of several questionable decisions himself. Of course, nothing will actually happen
Heaven's to Betsy this clown will never go away. Ruiz has to be one of the worst things to ever happen to this sport. Has anyone seen the fight? Is it worth watching?
I suppose some of the points Ruiz brings up are valid if they are true, but unfortunately for him nobody cares outside his camp.
yeah i agree on the last part. But then i ask, if Valuev's team was being informed of the score, how did Ruiz' team know about it, yet NOT know the score themselves? For the moment, it seems like a baseless accusation. The rest is thin, at best. It's true that judges don't keep a scoresheet of the entire bout, that for title fights you turn in your score round by round. But at the same time, I can recall at the end of a fight which round I scored for whom. When I judge, I'll jot down at the end of the fight which rounds I scored for whom and add it up at that point. It's not uncommon for other judges to do the same. I do know one judge who takes the idea of "scoring each round as its own fight" to the extreme. I swear the fucker has ADD because he NEVER recalls how he scored a fight at night's end until the scorecards are announced. There was one fight that was a split decision, to which he replied upon hearing his scorecard "I had THAT guy winning?" :: But it's a case not unlike, say Jones-Tarver I or even Pac-Marquez I, where you're watching the fight as a whole and get the sense that one guy won, yet you add up your scorecard and find that the numbers tell a different story. Valuev-Ruiz can fit in that mold. It was a close fight, and I can see where the perception is created that Johnny was thought to have controlled the real estate. But scoring round by round, there's just no way that Valuev lost the fight
